Mr. HARDING. The reason I am embarrassed, the figures provided to us were provided by the Senate Finance office and they unfortunately include positions which haven't been authorized. When the positions are authorized I will be back to you for them but that will only be after Chairman Lucien Nedzi and his Subcommittee of House Administration have fully authorized it. Frankly, I think they jumped the gun when they included them in the dollar amounts. Therefore, I am not requesting those figures at this time. I would think by the time this bill is acted on by the Senate, they will be fully authorized by House Administration. I will submit the appropriate information to you, at that time Mr. Chairman.

Mr. SHIPLEY. Are they temporary positions?

Mr. HARDING. They are asking for four permanent and six temporary posts. Actually, they share the task of offering assistance to disabled visitors. I don't downplay the merit of their request, it is just premature.

I would suggest for the consideration of the committee that on the one page I have submitted, we limit our request to that which is duly authorized and fund those items at this time and keep the others in abeyance until authorization.

Mr. SHIPLEY. All right. Fine.

Mr. HARDING. With that, Mr. Chairman, I believe that covers my areas, unless you have any further questions.

Mr. SHIPLEY. Do you have any questions?

Mr. BENJAMIN. No.

Mr. SHIPLEY. I think probably we may as well quit and come back at 1 o'clock.

The committee will stand adjourned until 1 o'clock.

[Whereupon, at 12 noon, the subcommittee was adjourned to reconvene at 1 p.m.]

AFTERNOON SESSION

Mr. SHIPLEY. The committee will come to order.

We will continue the hearing.

Mr. Henshaw, why don't you go ahead?

OFFICE OF THE DOORKEEPER

Mr. HENSHAW. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

The next office is the Office of the Doorkeeper, which is on page 27-28 of the Subcommittee Print.

For salaries, including overtime for the Publications and Distribution service, for the Office of the Doorkeeper, $4,193,000.

Mr. Chairman, in order to regulate the budget more closely, the overtime, formerly carried in "Allowances and Expenses", has been incorporated under the appropriate heading in fiscal year 1979. The Doorkeeper of the House, Mr. James T. Molloy, is here to discuss with the Subcommittee his office and its affiliated operations.

Mr. Chairman, I am sure you will wish Mr. Molloy to cover all of the items with which he is concerned. They are as follows, with the corresponding page numbers in my statement and Subcommittee Print.

[The information referred to follows:]

For Fiscal Year '79, $205,800 is requested for education of Congressional Pages and Pages for the United States Supreme Court, as provided by Part 9 of Title IV of the Legislative Reorganization Act of 1946. estimate was submitted by the Budget Director of the Public Schools for

the District of Columbia, Mr. Edward G. Winner.

This

Mr. SHIPLEY. Mr. Molloy, why don't you go ahead and proceed? Mr. MOLLOY. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and members of the committee.

Mr. Chairman, I am here to answer any questions you may have concerning the appropriation for the Doorkeeper's Office in fiscal year 1979. I would like to thank the committee, and you, Mr. Chairman, for past considerations and support of the services the Doorkeeper's Office provides to the Members. Your contributions to their improvement have been considerable.

Mr. Shipley, I, too, like the other officers of the House, deeply regret your retirement from the House, and wish you the very best. I have no doubt you will achieve happiness and contentment in whatever new endeavor you attempt. On behalf of the employees of the Doorkeeper's Office, I may add the lowest compensated financially on the Hill, I thank you for the improvements in salaries and working conditions which have resulted from your interest and

concern.

Appearing with me today are Jack Russ, Deputy Doorkeeper; Gil Udell, Superintendent of the Document Room; Frank Bechtel, Acting Chief of Publications Distribution Service, and Charlie Mellody, assistant manager of the Democratic cloakroom.

I have comprehensive Annual Reports of each section under my direction. Briefly, we have no new funding requests for consideration by the committee, other than the nominal pay increases authorized by the Committee on House Administration.

In the past year we have taken on various new projects, none of which required appropriations for additional funding, I am happy to report. This program has included courses for the Pages, outside of the Page School, in which we have made use of the knowledge and expertise of individuals employed by the House, who were only too happy to be asked to participate.

For example, we have utilized expertise of the computer people, who have proven themselves experts, to run outside courses for the Pages in the time they are not actually engaged in floor duties. We came to a decision to offer them better utilization of their free time.

Within the past month, the Door people have completed a training program under the direction of the Secret Service branch of the U.S. Treasury Department. The Attending Physician, Doctor Freeman Cary, and his assistant, Bob Moran, have conducted a First Aid course for them.

Recently we assumed payroll authority for the reorganized House Beauty Shop, another area directed to service for the Members. We have seven areas, our immediate office, Publications Distribution, Doormen, Pages, Cloak Room, SOPAD, and the Document Room. Most of you are familiar with the operation. Possibly I could just answer questions rather than go into extensive detail. Mr. SHIPLEY. That would be well, and anything you want to submit for the record, of course, will be included in the record. Mr. MOLLOY. We have the standard charts on vacancies. Mr. BENJAMIN. Could we get copies?

Mr. MOLLOY. We have copies. If I might start with Publications Distribution.