we will get the proper designation so that we will each understand what we are talking about. I would like to have covered for 1965, the amount each State would be entitled to out of the $150 million authorized for hospital construction under the formula. You would have no problem about that? Secretary CELEBREZZE. Under the Harris bill? The CHAIRMAN. Yes. Secretary CELEBREZZE. Yes, we will do that for you. The CHAIRMAN. Under the administration proposal, as it has been so designated, there would be $100 million for 1965 for this same purpose. I want you to give me the information as to what each State would be entitled to out of that $100 million. If you can, I want you to give the committee the information as to what each State would be entitled to have under the new formula out of the other $50 million. Secretary CELEBREZZE. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Have you reached the point that you can do that? Secretary CELEBREZZE. Yes, we can. The CHAIRMAN. I think that would be helpful. (The information to be submitted appears on pp. 101-104.) The CHAIRMAN. Without asking too much, suppose we take the fifth year and do the same thing. Secretary CELEBREZZE. We can do that. The CHAIRMAN. Then we can get a picture of what the differences will be. I think it will be helpful and help some of the members to clarify this, as to how many differences there are. Secretary CELEBREZZE. There are differences under the formula. The CHAIRMAN. The difference runs a total of between $160 and $340 million. That is substantial, I would say. Secretary CELEBREZZE. There would be a difference in allocation. (The information to be submitted follows:) Major features of bills and major differences Million HEW proposal 1. Authorizes grants to public or nonprofit agencies to assist in developing and carrying out area wide plans for health facilities. $5,000,000 authorized for fiscal year 1965 and $10,000,000 for each of the next 4 years (sec. 318). 2. Extends Hill-Burton program for 5 years (sec. 601). 3. (a) Authorizes appropriations as follows for 1965 fiscal year and each of next 4 years (sec. 601 (a) and (b)): For long-term care facilities. For rehabilitation facilities. For long-term care. $70 ters. 20 For hospitals and public health centers. (b) Also authorizes appropriation of following sums for modernization pro 100 For rehabilitation facilities. 10 gram (sec. 601 (c): (b) Authorizes appropriations as follows (assuming full appropriations): Million Million (b) Authorizes appropriations as follows for hospital and public health centers and for modernization with authority vested in States to transfer up to of such amounts for modernization program: For mod Million $150 160 1968. 1969 Million $180 180 1967. 170 4. Funds for all programs, except modernization, allotted on basis of existing Hill-Burton formula-population and square of allotment percentage (the latter is based on per capita income). Modernization funds to be allotted on basis of regulations which take into account population, financial need, and extent of the need (sec. 602(a)). NOTE.-Virgin Islands, American Samoa, or Guam entitled to 1⁄2 of each of above if they demonstrate the need therefor to Surgeon General. Same as HEW, except that only 1 minimum allotment of $200,000 for combined categories of hospitals, public health centers, and modernization. 6. Appropriated construction funds to be available for year in which appropriated and next succeeding year, except that for Virgin Islands, American Samoa, and Guam such funds are available for year in which appropriated and next 2 fiscal years (sec. 602(d)). 7. Intrastate transfer of allotments (sec. 602(e)): (a) Would authorize transfer between long-term care facilities and diag- 14. Financial aid to State agency: This is a new provision under which not 15. Withholding of payments: These provisions are essentially the same as 16. Judicial review (sec. 608): These provisions are essentially the same as 17. Recovery (sec. 609): This section provides for recovery by the United States 18. Loans for construction or modernization of hospitals and other medical This section would authorize loans for construction or modernization of The amount of any loan, or of any loan and grant, with respect to any project H.R. 10041 agency must certify that there is a need for the project in accord with the State In the case of a project (other than a project for a proprietary nursing home), Authorizes insurance liability under this program up to a maximum aggre- Would establish a medical facilities mortgage insurance fund to be available 21. Research studies and demonstrations (sec. 644(a)): As in existing legis- As new provisions, this section provides that, except in unusual cases, the |