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Inclosure 4 in No. 1.

Mr. Fish to Sir E. Thornton.

DEPARTMENT OF STATE,

WASHINGTON, February 3, 1871.

SIR, I have the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your note of the Ist instant, in which you inform me that you are authorized by Earl Granville to state that it would give Her Majesty's Government great satisfaction if the claims commonly known by the name of the "Alabama" claims were submitted to the consideration of the same High Commission which Her Majesty's Government have proposed that the questions relating to the British Possessions in North America should be discussed, provided that all other claims, both of British subjects and citizens of the United States, arising out of acts committed during the recent civil war in this country, are similarly referred to the same Commission.

I have laid your note before the President, and he has directed me to express the satisfaction with which he has received the intelligence that Earl Granville has authorized you to state that Her Majesty's Government has accepted the views of this Government as to the disposition to be made of the so-called "Alabama" claims.

He also directs, me to say, with reference to the remainder of your note, that if there be other and further claims of British subjects or of American citizens growing out of acts committed during the recent civil war in this conntry, he assents to the propriety of their reference to the same High Commission; but he suggests that the High Commissioners shall consider only such claims of this description as may be presented by the Governments of the respective claimants at an early day, to be agreed upon by the Commissioners.

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SIR,-I received on the 19th instant your despatch of the 6th instant, inclosing copies of letters exchanged between yourself and the Secretary of State of the United States, relative to the appointment of a Joint High Commission to sit at Washington for the purpose of considering pending questions between this country and the United States.

Her Majesty's Government, having been regularly informed by you by telegraph of the satisfactory character of this correspondence, did not hesitate at once to send out the British Members of the Commission, and Lord de Grey and Mr. Bernard accordingly embarked for New York on the 11th, and Sir Stafford Northcote on the 18th instant; and it now only remains for me to acquaint you formally that Her Majesty's Government entirely approve of the tenor of your letters to Mr. Fish.

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No. 3.

Full Power to the Earl de Grey and Ripon, Sir Stafford Henry Northcote, Sir Edward Thornton, Sir John Alexander Macdonald, and Montague Bernard, Esq., to negotiate with Plenipotentiaries from the United States.

VICTORIA R.

VICTORIA, by the grace of God, Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, &c., &c., &c., To all and singular to whom these Presents shall come, Greeting. Whereas, for the purpose of discussing in a friendly spirit with Commissioners to be appointed on the part of Our Good Friends the United States of America, the various questions on which differences have arisen between Us and Our said Good Friends, and of treating for an Agreement as to the mode of their amicable settlement, We have judged it expedient to invest fit persons with full power to conduct on Our part the discussions in this behalf: Know ye, therefore, that We, reposing especial trust and confidence in the wisdom, loyalty, diligence, and circumspection of Our right trusty and right well-beloved Cousin and Councillor George Frederick Samuel, Earl de Grey and Ripon, Viscount Goderich, a Peer of Our United Kingdom, President of Our Most Honorable Privy Council, Knight of Our Most Noble Order of the Garter, &c., &c., of Our right trusty and well-beloved Councillor Sir Stafford Henry Northcote, Baronet, a Member of Parliament, Companion of Our Most Honorable Order of the Bath, &c., &c. ; of Our trusty and well-beloved Sir Edward Thornton, Knight Commander of Our Most Honourable Order of the Bath, Our Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary to Our Good Friends the United States of America, &c., &c. ; of Our trusty and well-beloved Sir John Alexander Macdonald, Knight Commander of Our Most Honourable Order of the Bath, a Member of Our Privy Council for Canada, and Minister of Justice and AttorneyGeneral in Our Dominion of Canada, &c., &c.; and of Our trusty and well-beloved Montague Bernard, Esquire, Chichele Professor of International Law in the University of Oxford-have named, made, constituted, and appointed, as We do by these presents name, make, constitute, and appoint them Our undoubted High Commissioners, Procurators, and Plenipotentiaries: Giving to them, or any three or more of them, all manner of power and authority to treat, adjust, and conclude with such Minister or Ministers as may be vested with similar power and authority on the part of Our Good Friends the United States of America, any Treaties, Conventions, or Agreements that may tend to the attainment of the above-mentioned end, and to sign for Us and in Our name everything so agreed upon and concluded, and to do and transact all such other matters as may appertain to the finishing of the aforesaid work in as ample manner and form, and with equal force and efficacy, as We Ourselves could do if personally present: Engaging and promising upon Our Royal Word, that whatever things shall be so transacted and concluded by Our said High Commissioners, Procurators, and Plenipotentiaries shall be agreed to, acknowledged, and accepted by Us in the fullest manner, and that We will never suffer, either in the whole or in part, any person whatsoever to infringe the same, or act contrary thereto, as far as it lies in Our power.

In witness whereof We have caused the Grrat Seal of Our United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland to be affixed to these Presents, which We have signed with Our Royal Hand.

Given at Our Court at Windsor Castle, the sixteenth day of February, in the year of Our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy-one, and in the thirty-fourth year of Our reign.

(Copy--Canada.)

The Earl of Kimberly to Lord Lisgar.

DOWNING STREET,

16th February, 1871.

MY LORD,-You have already been informed by telegram of the views of Her Majesty's Government upon the Fishery Questions, but I think it will be convenient, with reference to the pending negoaiations, that a somewhat fuller statement of those views should now be placed on record.

It would not be possible for Her Majesty's Government to pledge themselves to any forgone conclusion upon any particular point connected with these negotiations, but they have anxiously considered the questions which concerns Canada; and they feel confident that the Canadian Government, will agree with them that a satisfactory termination of the difficulties which have arisen with the United States, can only be attained by taking as broad and liberal a view as is consistent with he just rights and real interests of the Dominion.

As at present advised, Her Majesty's Government, are of opinion that the right of Canada to exclude Americans from fishing in the waters within the limits of three marine miles of the coast, is beyond dispute and can only be ceded for an adequate consideration.

Should this consideration take the form of a money payment, it appears to Her Majesty's Government, that such an arrangement would be more likely to work well than if any conditions were annexed to the exercise of the privilege of fishing within the Canadian waters.

The presence of a considerable number of cruisers would always be necessary to secure the performance of such conditions and the enforcement of penalties for the nonobservance of them would be certain to lead to disputes with the United States.

With respect to the question, what is a Bay or Creek, within the meaning of the first Article of the Treaty of 1818, Her Majesty's Government adhere to the interpretation which they have hitherto maintained of that Article, but they consider that the difference which has arisen with the United States on this point, might be a fit subject for compromise.

The exclusion of American fishermen from resorting to Canadian Ports, "except for "the purpose of shelter, and of repairing damages therein, of purchasing wood and "of obtaining water," might be warranted by the letter of the Treaty of 1818, and by the terms of the Imperial Act, 59, Geo. III., chap. 38, but Her Majesty's Government feel bound to state that it seems to them an extreme measure-inconsistent with the general policy of the Empire, and they are disposed to concede this point to the United States Government, under such restrictions as may be necessary to prevent smuggling, and to guard against any substantial invasion of the exclusive rights of fishing which may be reserved to British Subjects.

In conclusion I have to state that Her Majesty fully appreciated the loyal and prompt manner in which the Canadian Government have assented to the appointment of the Commision which is about to sit at Washington.

The high character and recognised ability of the British Commissioners afford ample security that the interests of Canada will be carefully protected during the forthcoming negotiations.

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The Earl of Kimberly to Lord Lisgar.

(Copy-Canada-No. 374.)

DOWNING STREET,

17th March, 1871.

MY LORD,-In answer to your telegram received on the 10th instant, stating that in the opinion of your Government, the Canadian Fisheries cannot be sold without the consent of the Dominion, I have already informed your Lordship by Telegraph that Her Majesty's Government never had any intention of advising Her Majesty to part with those fisheries without such consent.

When the Reciprocity Treaty was concluded, the Acts of the Nova Scotian and New Brunswick Legislatures relating to the Fisheries were suspended by Acts of those Legislatures, and the Fishery rights of Canada are now under the protection of a Canadian Act of Parliament, the repeal of which would be necessary in case of the cession of those rights to any Foreign Power.

I think it right however to add that the responsibility of determining what is the true construction of a Treaty, made by Her Majesty with any foreign power, must remain with Her Majesty's Government, and that the degree to which this Country would make itself a party to the strict enforcement of Treaty Rights may depend not only on the literal construction of the Treaty, but on the moderation and reasonableness with which those rights are asserted.

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The Secretary of State for the Colonies to the Governor General.

DOWNING STREET,

17th June, 1871.

MY LORD, I have the honor to enclose, herewith, copies of the Treaty signed at Washington, on May 8th, by the Joint High Commissioners, which has been ratified by Her Majesty and by the President of the United States, and of the Instructions to Her Majesty's High Commissioners and Protocols of the Conferences held by the Commission. The Dominion is from its geographical position as the immediate neighbour of the United States, so peculiarly interested in the maintenance of cordial relations between that Republic and the British Empire, that it must be a source of satisfaction to the Canadian Government, that Her Majesty has been able to conclude a Treaty for the amicable settlement of differences which might have seriously endangered the good understanding between the two countries.

Moreover, the Rules laid down in Article VI, as to the international duties of neutral governments are of special importance to the Dominion which carries on such an extensive and increasing maritime commerce, and possesses such a considerable merchant navy.

But independently of the advantages which Canada must derive from the removal of the causes of difference with the United States arising out of occurrences during the civil war, Her Majesty's Government believe that the settlement which has been arrived

at of the questions directly affecting British North America, cannot fail to be beneficial
to the Dominion. I need not refer to the well known history of the Fishery question,
further than to observe that ever since the termination by the British Government, in
consequence of the war of 1812, of the liberty enjoyed, under the Treaty of 1783, by
American citizens of fishing in the territorial waters of the British Colonies, and the
renunciation by the United States in the Treaty of 1818 of all claim to that liberty, this
question has in different forms been the subject of controversy with the United States.
Her Majesty's Government have always contended for the rights of the Colonies, and
they have employed the British Naval forces in the protection of the Colonial fisheries;
but they could not overlook the angry feelings to which this controversy has given rise,
and the constant risk that in the enforcement of the exclusion of American fishermen
from the Colonial waters a collision might take place which might lead to the most serious
consequences, and they would have been wanting in their duty, if they had not availed
themselves of the opportunity presented by the late negotiation to remove a cause of
perpetual irritation and danger to the relations of this country and the Dominion with
the United States.

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The Canadian Government itself took the initiative in suggesting that a Joint British and American Commission should be appointed, with a view to settle the disputes which had arisen as to the interpretation of the Treaty of 1818, but it was certain that however desirable it might be, in default of any complete settlement, to appoint such a Commission, the causes of the difficulty lay deeper than any question of interpretation, It was necessary, therefore, to and the mere discussion of such points as the correct definition of bays could not lead to a really friendly agreement with the United States. endeavour to find an equivalent which the United States might be willing to give in return for the fishery privileges, and which Great Britain, having regard both to Imperial and Colonial interests, could properly accept. Her Majesty's Government are well aware that the arrangement which would have been most agreeable to Canada was the conclusion of a Treaty similar to the Reciprocity Treaty of 1854, and a proposal to this effect was pressed upon the United States Commissioners, as you will find in the 36th Protocol of the Conferences. This proposal was, however, declined, the United States Commissioners stating "that they could hold out no hope that the Congress of the United States would give its consent to such a tariff arrangement as was proposed, or to any extended plan "of reciprocal free admission of the products of the two countries." The United States Commissioners did indeed propose that coal, salt and fish, should be reciprocally admitted free, and lumber after the 1st of July, 1874; but it is evident that looked at as a tariff arrangement this was a most inadequate offer, as will be seen at once when it is compared with the long list of articles admitted free under the Reciprocity Treaty. Moreover, it is obvious from the frank avowal of the United States Commissioners, that they only made this offer because one branch of Congress had recently more than once expressed itself in favor of the abolition of duties on coal and salt, and because Congress had partially removed the duty from lumber, and the tendency of legislation in the United States was towards the reduction of taxation and of duties, so that to have ceded the Fishery rights in return for these concessions would have been to exchange them for commercial arrangements, which there is reason to believe may before long be made without any such cession, to the mutual advantage of both the Dominion and the United States; and Her Majesty's Government are bound to add that whilst in deference to the strong wishes of the Dominion Government they used their best efforts to obtain a renewal in principle of the Reciprocity Treaty, they are convinced the establishment of free trade between the Dominion and the United States is not likely to be promoted by making admission to the fisheries dependent upon the conclusion of such a Treaty; and that the repeal by Congress of duties upon Canadian produce on the ground that a Protective Tariff is injurious, to the country which imposes it, would place the commercial relations of the two countries on a far more secure and lasting basis than the stipulations of a Convention framed upon a system of reciprocity. Looking, therefore, to all the circumstances, Her Majesty's Government found it their duty to deal separately with the

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