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Groves, Lt. Gen. Leslie R., letter to Senator McClellan, dated June 28,
1962_.

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Nedderman, Dr. Howard C., director of research, General Dynamics, letter
to Senator McClellan, dated July 31, 1962.

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Polon, David D., president, The Scientist and Engineer Technological
Institute, letter to Senator McClellan, dated April 23, 1962--

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Root, L. Eugene, president, Lockheed Missiles and Space Co., letter to
Senator McClellan, dated June 1, 1962_.

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Articles and additional statements for the record:

National Society of Professional Engineers, statement recommending
indefinite postponement of S. 2771

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Sponsler, George C., chief scientist, R&D., BuShips, U.S. Navy,
article entitled "Needed: Scientists on Top".

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Stover, Carl F., author of “The Government of Science”.

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The committee met, pursuant to recess, at 10:15 a.m., in room 3302, New Senate Office Building, Senator John L. McClellan (chairman) presiding.

Present: Senators McClellan, Muskie, Gruening, and Javits.

Also present: Walter L. Reynolds, chief clerk and staff director and Ann M. Grickis, assistant chief clerk.

OPENING STATEMENT OF THE CHAIRMAN

The CHAIRMAN. The committee will come to order.

These hearings are being held on the bill, S. 2771, providing_for the establishment of a Commission on Science and Technology. The current hearings are a continuation of studies which have been conducted by the committee and its staff over a period of 5 years, in an effort to bring about better reorganization and coordination of science and technological activities of the Federal Government.

The first series of hearings in the present Congress were conducted on May 10, 1962. The committee is anxious to obtain comments from all qualified persons who have an interest in this subject, whether they are for or against the proposed legislation, in order that the Congress can be as fully advised as possible as to the need for legislation in this area.

Before we proceed with the first witness, I would like to place in the record at this point a copy of a committee print setting forth suggested amendments to S. 2771, the bill to which these hearings are directed. The proposed changes, which are set forth in italicized language, are basically clarifying in nature and include suggestions which I understand have been or will be made by witnesses appearing before the committee at these hearings.

The purpose and intent of the original bill will not be changed in any way by the proposed amendments included in the committee print, but are submitted to further clarify certain sections of the bill which some persons interested in the proposed legislation suggested needed further clarification.

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ferred to and performed by private business or universities industry or nonprofit organizations, including universities and other educational or technological institutions. SEC. 3. (a) In order to carry out the purposes of this Act, there is hereby established a commission to be known as the Commission on Science and Technology (in this Act referred to as the "Commission").

(b) Service of an individual as a member of the Commission or employment of an individual by the Commission as an attorney or expert in any business or professional field, on a part-time or full-time basis, with or without compensation, shall not be considered as service or employment bringing such individual within the provisions of section 281, 283, 284, 434, or 1914 of title 18 of the United States Code, or section 190 of the Revised Statutes (5 U.S.C. 99).

MEMBERSHIP OF THE COMMISSION

SEC. 4. (a) NUMBER AND APPOINTMENT.-The Commission shall be composed of twelve members as follows:

(1) Four appointed by the President of the United States, two from the executive branch of the Government who are participating in Federal scientific or technological activities, and two from private life who are eminent in one or more fields of science or engineering, or who are qualified and experienced in policy determination and administration of industrial scientific research and technological activities;

(2) Four appointed by the President of the Senate, two from the Senate and two from private life who are eminent in one or more fields of science or engineering, or who are qualified and experienced in policy determination and administration of industrial scientific research and technological activities; and

(3) Four appointed by the Speaker of the House of Representatives, two from the House of Representatives and two from private life who are eminent in one or more fields of science or engineering, or who are qualified and experienced in policy determination and administration of industrial scientific research and technological activities.

(b) VACANCIES.-Any vacancy in the Commission shall not affect its powers, but shall be filled in the same manner in which the original appointment was made.

ORGANIZATION OF THE COMMISSION

SEC. 5. The Commission shall elect a Chairman and a Vice Chairman from among its members.

QUORUM

SEC. 6. Seven members of the Commission shall constitute a quorum.

COMPENSATION OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION

SEC. 7. (a) MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.-Members of Congress who are members of the Commission shall serve without compensation in addition to that received for their services as Members of Congress; but they shall be reimbursed for travel, subsistence, and other necessary expenses incurred by them in the performance of the duties vested in the Commission.

(b) MEMBERS FROM THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.-The members of the Commission who are in the executive branch of the Government shall serve without compensation in addition to that received for their services in the executive branch, but they shall be reimbursed for travel, subsistence, and other necessary expenses incurred by them in the performance of the duties vested in the Commission. (c) MEMBERS FROM PRIVATE LIFE.-The members from private life shall each receive $100 per diem when engaged in the actual performance of duties vested in the Commission, plus reimbursement for travel, subsistence, and other necessary expenses incurred by them in the performance of such duties.

STAFF ADMINISTRATION OF THE COMMISSION

SEC. 8. (a) The Commission shall have power to appoint and fix the compensation of such personnel as it deems advisable, in accordance with the provisions of the civil service laws and the Classification Act of 1949, as amended.

(b) The Commission may procure, without regard to the civil service laws and the classification laws, temporary and intermittent services to the same extent as is authorized for the departments by section 15 of the Act of August 2, 1946 (60 Stat. 810), but at rates not to exceed $50 $75 per diem for individuals.

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