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2. The committee consisted of:

Col. N. I. Fooks, infantry section, CONARC, chairman
Lt. Col. S. C. Carpenter, infantry section, CONARC

Lt. Col. P. Botchin, engineer section, CONARC

Lt. Col. Ellis Lea, NBPRP, DA

Mr. R. W. Blanchard (OCE), ODCSLOG, DA

Mr. W. E. Day, G3 section, CONARC

Mr. W. H. Tardy, G4 section, CONARC

3. References:

(a) DA letter OPS OT TR2, dated March 3, 1956, subject: "Future Site of the National Matches" (enclosure 1).

(b) Memo to CG, CONARC, subject: "Interim Report of Committee for Future Site of the National Matches," dated April 30, 1956. This memo reported elimination from consideration of all stations except Camps Breckinridge and Atterbury and Forts Bragg and Gordon, and outlined procedure for comparing them. It also reported that most optimistic date that shift could be made from Camp Perry to a new site would be for the 1958 matches (enclosure 2).

(c) Memo to CG, CONARC, subject: "Second Interim Report of Committee for Selection of Future Site for National Matches," dated August 16, 1956. This memo reported elimination from consideration of Forts Bragg and Gordon, and gave comparisons including raw preliminary monetary estimates. It also announced a planned subcommittee visit to Camps Breckinridge and Atterbury in company with Engineer representatives (enclosure 3).

4. Facilities requirements were based upon those available at Camp Perry augmented and improved to meet the directive in reference paragraph 3(a). Only first-class range facilities and accommodations were considered. Range facilities requirements were set at:

600-yard rifle range (with firing points at 600, 500, 300, and 200 yards) — 400 targets.

1,000 and 600 yards-100 targets.

300-meter rifle range (with firing line at 300 meters and 200 yards)--150 targets.

50-meter pistol range (with a covered firing line and with targets at 50 meters, 50 yards, and 25 yards)-350 targets.

100-meter rifle range (with a covered firing line and with targets at 100 meters, 100 yards, 50 meters, and 50 yards)-240 targets.

Range, housing, and administrative facilities requirements are shown on map in enclosure 4, at table A, and on chart in enclosure 4, at table B. Specific requirements are prescribed in enclosure 4, at table C.

5. The committee heard the report of the subcommittee which visited Camps Atterbury and Breckinridge and has reviewed reports comparing the several stations considered.

6. The committee also took into consideration DA letter, file G3 OT TR2, dated April 14, 1955, to CG CONARC, subject: "Future Site for National Matches" and four endorsements thereto which, separately on July 26, 1955, reported favorably to Department of the Army on selection of Camp Atterbury.

7. Data on Camp Atterbury.

(a) Camp Atterbury:

(1) Is suitable to accommodate international and Pan-American games as well as national matches. An initial outlay of approximately $3,512,000 (see enclosure 4, table D) will provide adequate first-class facilities for shooting, housing, and administration.

(2) Is located as conveniently as possible to geographical extremities of the United States, and is favorably situated with respect to existing and planned arteries of travel.

(3) Possesses range facilities which can be expanded at a minimum cost, and can provide a 1,000-yard range.

(4) Is capable of providing accommodations on post for a minimum of 3,000 competitors with families in numbers commensurate with past experience, and is capable of expansion to provide facilities for even more than 4,000 competitors. Hotel-type accommodations in the vicinity of the camp are meager.

(5) Affords suitable weather conditions generally during the months of August and September. See inclosure 5.

(6) Is able to accommodate the national matches without interference to the training of Reserve components. The Chief of Reserve Components Division, Headquarters, 5th U.S. Army, agrees. In fact, substantial saving to the Government can be realized if competitive marksmanship and Reserve components both use Camp Atterbury.

(7) Has range facilities and expansion area within easy access (3 miles) of the housing area.

(8) Has exceptionally fine administrative setup and facilities for housing of administrative and visiting personnel in the form of two messes and bachelor-type quarters in the hospital area.

(9) Has an excellent trailer site which can readily be expanded and has 100 PHA family type units.

(10) Has an abundance of barracks and service buildings with mess buildings capable of being converted to small consolidated messes. b. Other pertinent data is tabulated in inclosure 5.

8. Findings.

a. The committee finds by unanimous vote that Camp Atterbury is the most suitable station in the United States for a future site for the national matches. No comparison was made with Camp Perry, Ohio, and no commitment is made in this paper which would select Camp Atterbury over Camp Perry or Camp Perry over Camp Atterbury. The committee wants to record incidentally that there are no major considerations to preclude the selection of Camp Breckinridge if for some reason Camp Atterbury has to be eliminated from consideration.

b. The committee further finds that approximately $3,512,000 is needed as an initial outlay to provide adequate first-class facilities for the national matches at Camp Atterbury.

c. The committee believes that the most optimistic date that a shift could be made from Camp Perry to Camp Atterbury would be for the 1958 matches. 9. Recommendations:

That Camp Atterbury be considered as the most suitable station in the United States (Camp Perry, Ohio, not considered) as a future site for the National Matches.

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Mr. FORD. Can we have put in the record this information we have. requested every year, the ammunition issue on a chart basis showing what you have used starting with fiscal year 1959 ?

(The matter referred to appears on p. 384.)

Colonel LEE. Yes, sir.

Mr. FORD. Also the chart material which shows participants supported by the National Board?

Colonel LEE. I believe you have in mind bringing up to date the charts you have in last year's record.

Mr. FORD. Yes.

Colonel LEE. Yes.

(The information to be supplied follows:)

Number of rifle clubs and schools enrolled with the Director of Civilian Marksmanship at the end of fiscal years 1951-60

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Individual members of rifle clubs and schools enrolled with the Director of
Civilian Marksmanship at the end of fiscal years 1951-60

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Mr. WEAVER. On page 2 of your statement where you give the percentage breakdown of the age group, 12 to 18 years, 56 percent, what would the other 34 percent be as far as the age group is concerned? Colonel LEE. People over 18.

Mr. WEAVER. From where to where?

Colonel LEE. You will note, if you look at the same chart, from 19 to 25 years constitutes another 6.7 percent. Then 26 years and over, which would be the remainder, 37.5.

I point out school cadets, the last item in the chart, is a part of the 12- to 18-year group. That constitutes only 1.2 percent of our total, but they are under 18 years of age, the school cadet group.

Mr. MINSHALL. No questions.

(Off the record.)

Mr. MINSHALL. Thank you, gentlemen.

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 8, 1961.

OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE, NAVY

WITNESSES

VICE ADM. JOHN SYLVESTER, USN, DEPUTY CHIEF OF NAVAL OPERATIONS (LOGISTICS)

VICE ADM. R. B. PIRIE, USN, DEPUTY CHIEF OF NAVAL OPERATIONS (AIR)

VICE ADM. W. D. SMEDBERG III, USN, CHIEF OF NAVAL PERSONNEL
REAR ADM. P. D. STROOP, USN, CHIEF, BUREAU OF NAVAL WEAPONS
REAR ADM. J. W. CRUMPACKER, USN, DIRECTOR, MATERIAL AND
BUDGET DIVISION, OFFICE OF CHIEF OF NAVAL OPERATIONS
REAR ADM. E. J. PELTIER, CHIEF, BUREAU OF YARDS AND DOCKS
AND CHIEF OF CIVIL ENGINEERS

CAPT. FRANK C. JONES, USN, COMPTROLLER, BUREAU OF SHIPS
J. W. COCHRANE, COMPTROLLER, BUREAU OF YARDS AND DOCKS
CAPT. A. C. HUSBAND, ASSISTANT CHIEF FOR ADMINISTRATION
AND COMPTROLLER, BUREAU OF YARDS AND DOCKS

D. B. MEDLIN, ASSISTANT STATUS AND REVIEW OFFICER, BUREAU
OF NAVAL WEAPONS

REAR ADM. L. ENSEY, USN, DEPUTY COMPTROLLER OF THE NAVY REAR ADM. M. A. HIRSCH, USN, ASSISTANT COMPTROLLER, DIRECTOR OF BUDGET AND REPORTS

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