Y 101011 MISUSE AND AVAILABILITY OF MACHINEGUNS HEARINGS BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON CRIME OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY NINETY-EIGHTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION ON H.R. 641 and Related Bills AVAILABILITY OF MACHINEGUNS AND SILENCERS MAY 17, 24 AND JUNE 27, 1984 Serial No. 153 Printed for the use of the Committee on the Judiciary UNIVERSITY TANFORD CIS RECORD ONLY: JUN 1936 LIBRARIES U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 50-965 O WASHINGTON : 1986 COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY PETER W. RODINO, JR., New Jersey, Chairman JACK BROOKS, Texas HAMILTON FISH, JR., New York ROBERT W. KASTENMEIER, Wisconsin CARLOS J. MOORHEAD, California DON EDWARDS, California HENRY J. HYDE, Illinois JOHN CONYERS, JR., Michigan THOMAS N. KINDNESS, Ohio JOHN F. SEIBERLING, Ohio HAROLD S. SAWYER, Michigan ROMANO L. MAZZOLI, Kentucky DAN LUNGREN, California WILLIAM J. HUGHES, New Jersey F. JAMES SENSENBRENNER, JR., SAM B. HALL, JR., Texas Wisconsin MIKE SYNAR, Oklahoma BILL MCCOLLUM, Florida PATRICIA SCHROEDER, Colorado E. CLAY SHAW, JR., Florida DAN GLICKMAN, Kansas GEORGE W. GEKAS, Pennsylvania BARNEY FRANK, Massachusetts MICHAEL DEWINE, Ohio ALAN A. PARKER, General Counsel GARNER J. CLINE, Staff Director SUBCOMMITTEE ON CRIME WILLIAM J. HUGHES, New Jersey, Chairman CHARLES E. SCHUMER, New York HAROLD S. SAWYER, Michigan BRUCE A. MORRISON, Connecticut E. CLAY SHAW, JR., Florida EDWARD F. FEIGHAN, Ohio F. JAMES SENSENBRENNER, JR., LAWRENCE J. SMITH, Florida Wisconsin (II) WITNESSES Baker, Jim, deputy director, Governmental Affairs Division, National Rifle Biaggi, Hon. Mario, a Representative in Congress from the State of New Brooks, Hon. Jack, a Representative in Congress from the State of Texas....... 214 Darwick, Norman, executive director, International Association of Chiefs of Epps, Sterling B., national cochairman, legislative committee, National Asso- ciation of Police Organizations ... Harrington, John J., past national president, Fraternal Order of Police. Higgins, Stephen E., Director, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, Kass, George, owner, Forensic Ammunition Service, Spring Arbor, MI.. Konstantin, David N., research associate, Police Executive Research Forum ..... 316 Kramer, Samuel, deputy director, National Engineering Laboratory, National Lapierre, Wayne, director, Federal affairs, National Rifle Association. Larkin, Isaiah, program associate, National Organization of Black Law En- Moynihan, Hon. Donald Patrick, a U.S. Senator from the State of New York... 23 Murphy, Edward, legislative counsel, International Brotherhood of Police Of- (III) Owen, Edward, chief, Firearms Technology Branch, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobac- Page co and Firemans, Department of the Treasury 62 Powis, Robert E., Deputy Assistant Secretary for Enforcement, Department of the Treasury. 62 Prepared statement 69 Stephens, Jay B., Deputy Associate Attorney General, Department of Justice .. 135 Prepared statements. 140, 261 Stone, Art, vice chairman, national legislative committee, Fraternal Order of Police ... 86 Prepared statement 88 Tighe, John H., chief of police, Pembroke Pines, Broward County, FL 154 Prepared statement 157 Walker, John M., Jr., Assistant Secretary, Enforcement and Operations, Department of the Treasury 247 Prepared statement 251 Zimmerman, Donald, deputy associate director, Law Enforcement 110 ADDITIONAL MATERIAL Hughes, Hon. William J., chairman, Subcommittee on Crime, opening statement.. 17 A resolution of the New York's City Council's support of this hearing submitted by Hon. Mario Biaggi 41 Law executive directors to Hon. Daniel P. Moynihan, letter dated April 16, 1984. 52 Relief Statistics for fiscal year 1984 124 Statement of the Hon. Joseph G. Minish, New Jersey, 11th District. 171 Statement of the Hon. Silvio 0. Conte, Massachusetts, 1st District 174, 355 Statement of the National Association of Police Organizations (NAPO) in support of H.R. 953. 179 Statement by Donald E. Fraher, legislative director, Handgun Control, Inc...... 181 American Law Division, Congressional Reference Service, Library of Con gress, to Hon. Mario Biaggi, Attn: Craig Floyd, letter dated November 27, 1984 188 William J. Hughes, chairman, Subcommittee on Crime, to Stephen Higgins, Director, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, letter dated May 16, 1984, with attachments. 192 Stephen E. Higgins, Director, Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, to Hon. William J. Hughes, chairman, Subcommittee on Crime, letter dated May 22, 1984, 232 Test procedure for armor-piercing handgun ammunition, prepared by U.S. Department of Commerce, May 1984. 288 Diagrams of three types of ammunition. 310 Statement by Thomas W. Doyle, FLEOA national executive vice president and legislative cochairman on H.R. 5835, dated June 27, 1984.. 317 Additional statements made for the record ... 355 195 ARMOR PIERCING AMMUNITION AND THE CRIMINAL MISUSE AND AVAILABILITY OF MACHINEGUNS AND SILENCERS THURSDAY, MAY 17, 1984 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, SUBCOMMITTEE ON CRIME, Washington, DC. The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 10:15 a.m., in room 2237, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. William J. Hughes (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding. Present: Representatives Hughes, Smith, Shaw, and Sensenbren ner. Staff present: Hayden W. Gregory, counsel; Eric E. Sterling, Edward H. O'Connell, and Virginia Sloan, assistant counsel; Thereas A. Bourgeois, staff assistant; Charlene Vanlier, associate counsel; and Phyllis N. Henderson, clerical staff. Mr. HUGHES. The Subcommittee on Crime will come to order. The Chair has received a request to cover this hearing in whole or in part by television broadcast, radio broadcast, still photography, or by other similar methods. In accordance with committee rule 5(a), permission will be granted, unless there is objection. Is there objection? [No response.] Let me first apologize for the delay, but Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania and myself formed a Congressional Crime Caucus, bipartisan in nature, in which my colleagues are members, and are appearing as witnesses. Unfortunately, the conference went over somewhat. So I extend my apologies to my most distinguished colleagues who I know have all kinds of things to do. (1) |