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THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

HEARINGS

BEFORE A

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE

COMMITTEE ON

GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETIETH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

JULY 18, 19, AND 20, 1967

Printed for the use of the Committee on Government Operations

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WILLIAM S. MOORHEAD, Pennsylvania OGDEN R. REID, New York
WILLIAM J. RANDALL, Missouri
DANTE B. FASCELL, Florida

FLETCHER THOMPSON, Georgia

MARGARET M. HECKLER, Massachusetts

ERNEST C. BAYNARD, Staff Administrator
JOSEPH L. GIBSON, Counsel

HULEN SELMAN, Investigator

IRMA REEL, Clerk

LYNNE HIGGINBOTHAM, Clerk

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Astin, Dr. A. V., Director, National Bureau of Standards; accompanied
by John Eberhard, Director, Institute of Applied Technology; and
Herbert Grosch, Director, Center for Computer Sciences and Tech-
nology-.
Cary, George D., Deputy Register of Copyrights, Library of Congress;
accompanied by Abe A. Goldman, General Counsel; and Barbara
Ringer, Assistant Register of Copyrights--

Hornig, Donald F., Director, Office of Science and Technology, accom-
panied by John Mays, staff member..

Hughes, Phillip S., Deputy Director, Bureau of the Budget; accom-

panied by Joseph F. Cunningham, Chief, ADP Management Branch,

Office of Management and Organization; and Clark Renninger,

Assistant Chief, ADP Management Branch__

Hyde, Rosel H., Chairman, Federal Communications Commission_.
Macy, John W., Chairman, Civil Service Commission, accompanied
by Hugh Scott and Joseph Lowell__

Moody, Joe E., Deputy Administrator, General Services Administra-

tion; accompanied by H. A. Abersfeller, Commissioner, Federal

Supply Service; Harry R. Van Cleve, General Counsel; Joe Eng-

mann, sharing exchange coordinator, San Francisco; R. F. Hoffman,

sharing exchange coordinator, Fort Worth; and T. M. O'Donnell,

sharing exchange coordinator, Kansas City-

Reynolds, Edwin L., Acting Commissioner of Patents..
Staats, Elmer B., Comptroller General of the United States; accom-
panied by Edward J. Mahoney, Associate Director, Office of Policy
and Special Studies; Robert F. Keller, General Counsel; and Ells-
worth B. Morse, Director, Office of Policy and Special Studies_ _ _ _

Letters, statements, etc., submitted for the record___

Astin, Dr. A. V., Director, National Bureau of Standards: Principal

research projects of the Center for Computer Sciences and Tech-

nology.

Cary, George D., Deputy Register of Copyrights, Library of Congress:

Announcement regarding copyright registration for computer pro-

grams..

Grosch, Dr. Herbert, Director, Center for Computer Sciences and

Technology, National Bureau of Standards: Statement of objectives

of NBS projects associated with standards listed in "Status of Fed-

eral ADP Standards Recommendations" given in the Information

Processing Standards Tech Memo 67-2, June 2, 1967.

Hughes, Phillip S., Deputy Director, Bureau of the Budget:

Computers by agency-purchase/lease, table---

Extract of public laws related to ADP responsibilities of the

Bureau of the Budget...

List of members of Committee on Information Systems of the
Council of State Governments.

Number of computers by cost range and average months installed,

fiscal year 1966, table___

White House memorandum for heads of departments and agencies

regarding the use of automatic data processing equipment_---

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DATA PROCESSING MANAGEMENT IN THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT

TUESDAY, JULY 18, 1967

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
GOVERNMENT ACTIVITIES SUBCOMMITTEE

OF THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS,

Washington, D.C.

The subcommittee met at 10:15 a.m., in room 2247, Rayburn House Office Building, the Honorable Jack Brooks, chairman of the subcommittee, presiding.

Present: Representatives Jack Brooks, William S. Moorhead, William J. Randall, Dante B. Fascell, Fletcher Thompson, and Margaret M. Heckler.

Also Present: Ernest C. Baynard, staff administrator; Joseph L. Gibson, counsel; Hulen Selman, investigator; Irma Reel, clerk; Lynn Higginbotham, clerk; J. Richard Berman, assigned from GAO, supervisory accountant; Frank J. Borsellino, assigned from GAO, accountant; and William H. Copenhaver, minority counsel.

Mr. BROOKS. Gentlemen, we were expecting some other members but we have Congressman Thompson here from Georgia, who is still dedicated to serving. And, we are delighted to see him. The other members will be along. They are familiar with this, and I think we will proceed and not wait any longer.

The Government Activities Subcommittee, having been duly authorized by the rules of the committee and a quorum being present for the purpose of taking testimony, is hereby called to order.

In March 1963, I introduced legislation to provide a coordinated, Government-wide management system for Government data processing equipment. With data processing fast becoming a vital component to efficient and effective government, it became imperative that this costly and essential equipment itself be managed in the most efficient manner and applied in the most effective way. In October 1965, after almost 3 years of bitter struggle, this legislation was approved and is now Public Law 89-306.

During the past 20 months, the Bureau of the Budget, the General Services Administration and the National Bureau of Standardseach of which was delegated specific responsibilities under this statute-have had time to begin implementation of this new business-like management system.

Setting up this system is by no means complete. Much remains to be done and as time passes, improvements must constantly be made. But, even today, the benefits of this new approach are apparent. Earlier this year, the Bureau of the Budget announced savings on the order of between $100 and $300 million had already been achieved as a result of a coordinated approach to management of Government data processing as provided in this legislation.

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