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lock, Senator, that the copyright owners have conceded in the consensus agreement that as part of a package deal, they would be agreeable to support a compulsory license which would take care of the concerns of the cable industry about clearing copyrights. But that in return, there should be compensatory license fees paid under that compulsory license, which is very unusual.

It does not exist in many other fields like the patent, which, Senator, you mentioned.

Now, there was a question, suppose the parties do not agree on what is a reasonable copyright fee under the compulsory license; and so again, as part of this package consensus agreement, it was said that if the parties cannot agree, then in the absence of a free market, where the price can be determined, there should be arbitration or this tribunal, which would set these rates. And that is how we got to the compulsory license and to the arbitration question.

Senator BURDICK. Well, I will carry this out. Why do we not leave it to the free market completely?

Mr. MEYER. The copyright owners would certainly be in agreement. Having pledged their word and honor on this consensus agreement, they do not feel they should go back on their word.

Mr. VALENTI. The answer is, of course, this ought to be in the free marketplace, Senator, just as all other copyrighted material is bargained for at the marketplace. But as Mr. Meyer pointed out, we did enter into an agreement. We pledged our support to it. We never wavered in that support, even though possibly we got a bad deal going in. But we signed it, and we honored it, and we stick by it.

Senator BURDICK. This is the so-called consensus agreement !
Mr. VALENTI. Yes. sir.
Senator BURDICK. And you are willing to honor it?
Mr. VALENTI. Yes, sir.
Senator BURDICK. Thank you.

Senator McCLELLAN. From a practical standpoint, is it possible to male agreements on each show with all of these stations?

Mr. VALENTI. I will let my expert answer this.
Senator MCCLELLAN. I just take it from a practical standpoint.

Mr. MEYER. In a way, Senator, this is water over the dam, but from a practical point of view, the copyright producers make license fees, arrange for license or license fees with many hundreds of television stations. I think there are 700.

Senator McCLELLAN. The point is the CATV station picks up somethink that is being broadcast somewhere else. He has no way of knowing what is going to be broadcast ahead of time.

How can he make an agreement with each copyright proprietor with respect to each particular show? I do not see how from a practical standpoint it can be done. Maybe I am wrong.

Mr. MEYER. It is difficult but it can be done. It is being done for hundreds of thousands of musical compositions which are given by

Senator McCLELLAN. I do not see how it can-the cable system does not have anything to do with what the broadcaster is going to buy and produce and so forth, and what he is going to pick up.

Maybe it is practical. Just tell me it is. If it is for the copyright proprietor and the CATV station in each instance to make a contract before that show as to what percentage or fee he will pay for rebroadcasting.

Mr. VALENTI. Mr. Chairman, I think I will step in to say I think it might be difficult, but I think it can be done. My colleague

Senator McCLELLAN. I do not see how it could be profitable. There would be such an expense involved in either way.

Mr. VALENTI. Excuse me, sir. My colleague, Mr. Stern, informs me that ASCAP does this with local stations. They are bargaining with them for music, not records but for music. And I think it is possible for a copyright owner to work out with cable systems in the free marketplace, this kind of an arrangement.

But as Mr. Meyer said, we have already stipulated.

Senator MoCLELLAN. Well, have they undertaken to do that in any instance that you know of? You have had this problem for years, at least until the Supreme Court indicated that there was no liability for CATV owners. I do not mean with the legal aspects of that case, but from the moral aspect of it. I thought, the copyright people did have the proprietary interest; and that some compensation should be provided for it.

Now, maybe we can step out of the picture and maybe

Mr. VALENTI. I think as of this point, 10 years I think the cable has been in operation, I think they have paid zero dollars for copyrighted material.

Senator McCLELLAN. Well, I wonder if you have worked out any arrangement. Have you tried it? What I am talking about

Mr. MEYER. We have tried, Senator, to approach the subject years ago; and the cable people indicated to us that they were unwilling to make any payments, and they would take their chances with the Supreme Court Fornightly case. And the Supreme Court, as you know, has said that local signals are not subject to copyright; and we are in the same position as to distant signals now where the court of appeals has settled that in the CBS v. T'eleprompter case.

Senator McCLELLAN. Personally, I would like for the problem to go away; apparently it is not going to go away. We are going to have to try to approach it and get some solution to it for the benefit of the parties of interest and also for the viewing public.

Mr. VALENTI. Well, Mr. Chairman, one final response. I agree with Senator Burdick that the crux of this is that the free marketplace ought to be the determinant as to what a man pays for a product he chooses from a supplier. And, indeed, that is the way the cable operates on everything that goes into its system. It buys at a bargain price or price that is set by its suppliers for everything that they use, except one, their copyrighted material, which is the gristle of their business.

But in the absence of the free marketplace and because we have agreed in the consensus agreement-we have said OK; we have pledged our word that we would go through with the compulsory license, if we had failing agreement on fees, an arbitration tribunal.

The final point I want to make, Mr. Chairman, is I have spoken of the consensus agreement numerous times; but to this hour we receive no benefits from it because all of the benefits have flowed to the cable system—that paragraph (d) the last paragraph, which was the trig. gering, generating effect for the arbitration tribunal has never been implemented.

And I do not understand why the cable people do not believe that the arbitration tribunal is fair, because we do not own them. We do not care who picks them. We do not know who they are. But we are willing to take our chances with fair, objective men setting these fees, then we will live by them, just as we have honored every provision of the consensus agreement to this very meeting.

Senator BURDICK. Mr. Chairman, I just want to correct the statement. I have taken no position on this. I merely asked a simple little question is all I did.

Mr. VALENTI. Well, let me say in answer to Senator Burdick's question, I will preface that.

Senator BURDICK. As I understand the justification and rationalization is first, you have got a complex situation, as the chairman has mentioned ; and second, you are already bound to a consensus agreement, is that the basis?

Mr. VALENTI. Yes, sir. And we are willing to live by it.
Senator McCLELLAN. I thank you very much.
Mr. VALENTI. Thank you very much.
[The prepared statement of Mr. Valenti follows:]



My name is Jack Valenti. I am the President of the Motion Picture Association of America, Inc., commonly referred to as MPAA, and of the Association of Motion Picture and Television Producers, Inc., commonly referred to as AMPTP. MPAA is a trade association whose membership comprises companies which are among the largest producers and distributors of copyrighted motion pictures in the United States. The membership of AMPTP which is a California membership corporation comprises 72 companies o engaged in the production of copyrighted motion pictures for theatrical exhibition and for television broadcasting, and of series specially produced for telecasting.

I also appear here for the Committee of Copyright Owners, commonly referred to as “CCO”. CCO is an ad hoc committee formed by producers and distributors of filmed and taped copyrighted television programs formed in order to coordinate their efforts in resolving the CATV-copyright issue and various regulatory issues concerning the importation by cable systems of programs from distant television stations and the resulting duplication of programs telecast by local stations. The membership of CCO comprises only the independent suppliers of copyrighted

1 Allied Artists Pictures Corporation, Avco Embassy Pictures Corp., Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc. Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc., Paramount Pictures Corporation, Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corp., United Artists Corporation, Universal Pictures, a division of Universal City Studios, Inc., and Warner Bros. Inc.

. The following companies constitute the membership of AMPTP: Aaron Spelling Productions, Inc., A&S Productions, Inc., (The) Alpha Corporation, American International Productions, a California Corporation, Artanis Productions, Inc., Aubrey Schenck Enterprises, Inc., Bing Crosby Productions, Inc., Brien Productions, Inc., Bristol Productions, Inc., Charleston Enterprises Corporation, Cinema Video Communications, Inc., Chrislaw Productions, Inc., Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc., Daisy Productions, Inc., Danny Thomas Productions, Darr-Don Inc., Edprod Pictures, Inc., Filmways, Inc., For mosa Productions, Inc., Four Star International, Inc., Frank Ross Productions, Geoffrey Productions, Inc., Gilbraltar Productions, Inc., Hanna-Barbera Productions, Inc., Harold Hecht Company, Herbert Leonard Enterprises, Inc., Jack Chertok Television, Inc., Jack Rollins and Charles H. Joffe Productions, (The) Kappa Corporation, Lawrence Turman, Inc., Legarla, Inc., Leonard Films, Inc., Levy-Gardner-Laven Productions, Inc., Lucille Ball Productions, Inc., (The) Malpaso Company, Max E. Youngstein Enterprises, Inc., Meteor Films, Inc., Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc., Metromedia Producers Corporation, Milla field Productions, Inc., (The) Mirisch Corporation of California, Mirisch Films, Inc., Mirisch Productions, Inc., Motion Pictures International, Inc., Murakami Wolf Productions Inc., NGC Television Inc., Norlan Productions, Inc., Oakmont Productions, Inc., Paramount Pictures Corporation, Pax Enterprises, Inc., Pax Films, Inc., Rainbow Productions, Inc., Rastar Enterprises, Inc., Rastar Productions. Inc., RFB Enterprises ino R.F.D. Productions, Robert B. Radnitz Productions, Ltd., Sheldon Leonard Productions, Sid & Marty Krofft Television Productions, Inc., Spelling-Goldberg Productions, (The) Stanley Kramer Corporation, Stuart Millar Productions, Inc., Summit Films, Inc., T&L Productions, Inc., Tandem Productions, Inc., Thomas/Spelling Productions, Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corp., Universal City Studios, Inc., Walt Disney Productions, Warner Bros. Inc., Wolper Pictures, Ltd., Wrather Corporation.

3 Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc.. MCA, Inc., Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc., Metromedia Producers Corporation. Paramount Picture Corporation, Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corporation, United Artists Corporation and Warner Bros. Inc.

television programs but not the networks, television stations, music performance societies or other owners of copyrighted works. However, the programs supplied by members of CCO to stations and thereby to cable systems, constitute by far the largest part of all copyrighted programs carried by television and cable.

CCO has negotiated a settlement with the cable system operators and broadcasters regarding the retransmission by cable systems of broadcasts containing copyrighted programs. In this settlement which was incorporated into a formal written "Consensus Agreement” (Appendix I attached hereto), the representatives of the cable, broadcasting and program production industries pledged themselves to support full implementation by the Congress and the Federal Communications Commission ("FCC") of all of the provisions of said settlement agreement. With respect to copyright fees the settlement provided that if the parties should be unable to agree on the amount of license fees payable by cable systems this issue should be settled by arbitration.

Promptly after the settlement was signed, the FCC implemented the agreement and issued new regulations (47 C.F.R. 88 76.51 et seq.) giving wide freedom to cable systems for the importation of distant signals but when copyright owners and cable operators failed to agree on copyright fees the cable industry repudiated the pledge contained in the Consensus Agreement that in the event of such disagreement the parties would support the insertion of an arbitration clause into the bill. As a result the copyright owners are still unable to collect license fees for the use of their films by cable systems, and are faced with a statutory schedule of fees in the bill, S. 1361 which as I shall demonstrate hereinafter, is wholly inadequate to provide just and reasonable compensation to the copyright owners for the value of their programs and for the losses suffered by them from the importation of distant signals.

Seated next to me here is Mr. Gerald Meyer a member of the law firm of Phillips. Nizer, Benjamin, Krim & Pallon, counsel to CCO.

There are also present in this room at my request, Dr. Robert W. Crandall, Associate Professor of Economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Mr. Lionel L. Fray of Temple Barker & Sloane, Inc., Management and Economic Counsel. These two gentlemen are the authors of the study commissioned by CCO entitled "The Profitability of Cable Television Systems and Effects of Copyright Fee Payment." Professor Crandall and Mr. Fray are available to the Subcommittee in the erent that members of the Subcommittee may wish to address questions to them regarding the economics of cable television and of the distribution of programs in the television markets of the United States.

I am grateful to the Committee for the privilege of testifying today and for the opportunity to state the position of the associations and groups of copyright owners for whom I am authorized to speak. We welcome the instant hearings and the resumption by the Subcommittee of its work on copyright law revision.

Indeed, the delay in the adoption of the Copyright Revision Bill for more than a decade combined with the slowness of the judicial process in establishing the right of the creators of copyrighted programs to collect under the present law, royalties from cable systems which use these programs for their commercial profit, has caused grievous injury to all those whose talents and investments have produced these programs.“

The motion picture industry of the United States makes the films which are shown in more than fourteen thousand motion picture theatres throughout the country as well as the majority of the programs broadcast by almost 700 commercial television stations. It is an industry directly employing thousands of people and indirectly providing the payrolls for tens of thousands more. The skills of those responsible for these programs range from those of the actors, writers, directors, composers and producers to those of the technicians on the sets and in the studios, the costume and wardrobe designers and makers, carpenters, painters, electricians, teamsters, warehousemen and office and professional personnel. All of these men and women depend for their livelihood on the income derived by the industry from various uses of these programs. Their compensation depends on the copyright fees paid for the use of these films in theatres and on television, and, insofar as television series are concerned consists to a large extent of “residuals”, i.e. of payments for each showing (run) of a series subsequent to its original run.

4 The CATV-Conyright controversy covers solely the retransmission by cable systems of nrograms broadcast by television stations for which the cable system charges its subscribers a fixed monthly charge. When cable systems "originate" their own programs or make a separate program or a per channel charge (Pay-TV or Pay-Cable), their copy. rightliability is admitted by all concerned.

I want to emphasize at the outset: the Program Suppliers are not anti-CATV. On the contrary, CATV systems represent important potential customers for television programs and, hopefully, an ultimate source of considerable revenue. In the public interest, as well as in their own self interest, all copyright owners look forward to a prosperous CATV industry. It is the desire of the copyright owners, therefore, to be as constructive as possible and to support the efforts of this Subcommittee in dealing effectively with this immensely difficult problem.

Both as a matter of economic necessity and of social fairness to those who produce the programs, it simply is wrong that the cable industry which reaps substantial profits from the use of the productive creations and investments of others should be permitted to remain outside of the program distribution market and to charge its subscribers $60 to $70 or more each year for transmitting to them a product for which—so far—they have paid nothing, and to do so in competition with the producers' paying customers, the television stations. I am glad to add that the cable industry concedes that it should pay royalties. Where we disagree, principally, is how much it should pay.


1. Copyright Liability of Cable Systems under the 1909 Act

Television today is a major user of copyrighted film programs. Before a television station broadcasts a copyrighted program, it must secure a license froin thie program's owner. The cable television segment of the television industry, on the other hand, picks up programs broadcast by television stations both nearby and far away and, for a monthly charge, retransmits them to individual set owners over wires or cables. I'p to now CATV, while diverting income from television stations, has escaped making payments to copyright owners even though it uses the copyrighted films for profit

The 1909 Copyright Act of course did not anticipate modern technology and novel methods of communication. Thus in Fortnightly Corp. v. United Artists, Inc.. 392 U.S. 390 (1968), the Supreme Court fo the United States held that the unlicensed use of essentially local broadcasting signals by community antenna systems which neither originated programs nor used microwaves and which were merely "well located" antennas enhancing the viewer's capacity to receive the broadraster's signals, did not constitute a copyright infringement within the terms of the (opyright Act of 1909. On the other hand, in Columbia Broadcasting Systems, Inc., against Teleprompter Corp., 476 F. 2d 338 (1973) (2 Cir., 1973) the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit held that the retransmission of programs from distant stations, constituted a copyright infringement. The court said:

"... we no longer have a system that 'no more than enhances the viewer's capacity to receive the broadcaster's signals.' Fortnightly, p. 399, 158 USPQ at 5. We hold that when a CATV system imports distant signals, it is no longer within the ambit of the Fortnightly doctrine, and there is then no reason to treat it differently from any other person who, without license, displays a copyrighted work to an audience who would not otherwise receive it. For this reason, we conclude that the CATV system is a “performer" of whatever programs from these distant signals that it distributes to its subscribers."

The defendant in the Teleprompter case has petitioned the Supreme Court for a writ of certiorari regarding the Court of Appeals' holding that CATV is liable when it imports distant signals. 2. The Consensus Agreement

In 1965 and 1966, the FCC prohibited cable systems from importing programs from distant stations into the top 100 television markets on the ground that such importations would impair local broadcasting, would blanket the country with signals from the superstations in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles and would be unfair to program producers and broadcasters in that stations have to negotiate and pay for the programs while cable systems deny their copyright liabilitr under the 1909 sta ute.

During the Fall of 1971, Mr. Dean Burch, Chairman of the FCC, and Dr. Clay T. Whitehead, Director of the Office of Telecommunications (OTP), sponsored negotiations between representatives of the industries principally involved in the controversy, i.e., cable operators, broadcasters and copyright owners. The deadlock among the cable industry-which felt that its expansion was unduly limited by the FCC's restrictions on the importation of distant signals—the

5 Second Report and Order. Community Television Systems, 2 FCC20 725 (1966). See also First Report and Order, 38 FCC 083 (1965).

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