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SATURDAY, JULY 14, 1787.

JOURNAL

Saturday July 14. 1787. It was moved and seconded to agree to the following propo sition, namely.

That to secure the liberties of the States already confederated, the number of representatives in the first branch from the States which shall hereafter be established, shall never exceed the representatives from such of the thirteen United States as shall accede to this Confederation.

On the question to agree to the proposition it passed in the negative (Ayes — 4; noes — 5; divided — 1.) It was moved and seconded to reconsider the two propositions reported from the grand Committee, and agreed by the House to stand part of the report - entered on the Journal of the 6. instant It was moved and seconded to postpone the second clause of the report from the grand Committee, entered on the Journals of the 6 instant, in order to take up the followi namely

That the second branch of the Legislature shall have
Thirty six Members of which number
New Hampshire shall have ...,
Massachusetts

4
Rhode Island ..
Connecticut

3
New York

3
New Jersey
Pennsylvania

4
Delaware
Maryland

3
Virginia

5

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MADISON

July 14

No Carolina

3 So Carolina

3 Georgia ..

2. On the question to postpone, it passed in the negative. [Ayes —4; noes—6.)

and then the House adjourned till Monday

DETAIL OF AYES AND Noes

| New Hampshire The Massachusetts

| Rhode Island

Connecticut
| New York

New Jersey
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first branch from the States hereafter to be established shall not exceed the representatives from the States already confede

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grand Committee of the
6. instant in order to take
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MADISON

Saturday. July 14. in Convention Mr. L. Martin called for the question on the whole report, including the parts relating to the origination of money bills, and the equality of votes in the 2d. branch.

Mr. Gerry. wished before the question should be put, that the attention of the House might be turned to the dangers apprehended from Western States. He was for admitting them

1 Vote 155, Detail of Ayes and Noes, which notes that this substitute was offered “by Mr. Pinkney".

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