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Mayor DILLARD. Mr. Chairman, the Kimball project is adjacent to the Commonwealth project, just merely across the street. From the civic center you could throw a rock across to the Kimball project.

Senator DOUGLAS. Mr. Coan calls my attention to the fact that if this is credited you will have a future credit of approximately $4.2 million for future urban renewal.

Mr. HIRST. Mathematically, sir, that would be approximately correct; yes.

Senator DOUGLAS. Would you be willing to limit yourself to merely having the credit on the existing project?

Mr. HIRST. On the existing three projects, sir?

Senator DOUGLAS. On the existing three projects.

Mr. WHEELER. No; when we get these we want to make another one. Mayor DILLARD. We have a fourth project under study, the Blue Ridge project. And it will cost millions and millions.

Senator DOUGLAS. Two more on the drawing boards?

Mr. WHEELER. Yes, sir. They will be adjacent to the downtown

east.

Senator DOUGLAS. That is already here in your attached sheet.
Mr. WHEELER. Yes.

Senator DOUGLAS. But do you have any projects aside from these three?

Mr. WHEELER. One more in the making.

Senator DOUGLAS. One more in the making?

Mr. WHEELER. Downtown west-officially known as the Blue Ridge project. That would be adjacent to downtown east.

Senator DOUGLAS. If we grant this credit, it is a credit not merely for $2,795,000 but for $7 million, and you could use the rest of it, $4.2 million approximately, for future urban renewal projects.

Mr. WHEELER. That is right.

Senator DOUGLAS. I suggested whether you would be willing to limit yourself to a credit on the existing three projects.

Mr. WHEELER. We want to make one honoring Senator Robertson right downtown Roanoke.

Senator DOUGLAS. Does the vice mayor speak for the mayor?
Mayor DILLARD. Yes.

Mr. HENLEY. Mr. Chairman, if this amendment was passed, the overall expenditures would be $8,982,163 by the city of Roanoke. The Federal expenditure

Senator DOUGLAS. The existing expenditures plus the $7 million?

Mr. HENLEY. That is including that. The Federal expenditure compared to that would be $6,877,639, and, as you know, most of these programs are usually two-thirds Federal participation and onethird local.

Senator DOUGLAS. The question is whether this is organically connected with the renewal projects. We would like to study the maps. Where are you going to put the fourth project?

Mr. WHEELER. That is downtown west, the Blue Ridge project.
Mr. HENLEY. In the downtown area.

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Senator DOUGLAS. Residential or commercial?
Mr. WHEELER. Commercial.

Mr. HENLEY. It would be commercial.

Senator DOUGLAS. What have been the other projects or commercial?

Mr. HENLEY. Two have been residential. The was a residential project displacing some 400 families. project is a residential area.

Senator DOUGLAS. What did you replace them with? Mr. HENLEY. We replaced them with commercial In that area the reuse was for commercial use and for auditorium site.

Senator DOUGLAS. Did you build any houses to reho who were displaced?

Mr. HENLEY. Yes, sir. We built 600 units of low and we are further planning units related to the K which will displace 305 families, and these projects, contingent on the making available of decent, safe, and ing facilities.

Senator DOUGLAS. What about the second project, th in your testimony?

Mr. HENLEY. The Kimball project, as I just menti dential displacement.

Senator DOUGLAS. Have you constructed alternative Kimball project is a downtown project?

Mr. HENLEY. No, sir. This is the area immediately east of the Commonwealth redevelopment project. Senator DOUGLAS. Is it residential?

Mr. HENLEY. Yes, sir. It is a residential area invo families.

Senator DOUGLAS. And have you plans for rehous who are thus displaced?

Mr. HENLEY. We are proceeding with 300 units of ] housing and the stimulation and development of priv private developers.

Senator DOUGLAS. How about downtown east?

Mr. HENLEY. Downtown east is more commercia than residential. However, it does have around 65 tr a skid-row type of project in that respect, and provisio be made for rehousing those.

Senator DOUGLAS. You don't have any conscientiou having Federal funds for urban renewal or public hous Mr. HENLEY. No, sir.

Mayor DILLARD. None whatever.

Senator DOUGLAS. You are not troubled by inner: matter?

Mr. WHEELER. By what?

Senator DOUGLAS. By inner scruples on accepting 1 Mr. WHEELER. No, ours are all on the outside, sir. Senator DOUGLAS. What?

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Mr. WHEELER. Ours are all on the outside.

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Mayor DILLARD. We are a new city, more or less, to Virginia. Senator DOUGLAS. If you had inner scruples, you have conquered them?

Mayor DILLARD. Yes, sir. We couldn't say that 10 or 12 years ago,
Senator.

Senator DOUGLAS. In other words, this is the new Virginia?
Mayor DILLARD. The new Roanoke; yes, sir. New Virginia.
Senator DOUGLAS. The new Virginia, not the old Virginia?
Mayor DILLARD. We never were a part of the old Virginia, Sen-
ator. Our city is only 82 years old.

Mr. WHEELER. We still have a heritage we are proud of.
Senator DOUGLAS. I understand.

Mr. WHEELER. We are moving forward.

Senator DOUGLAS. Your faces are turned toward the rising sun?
Mr. WHEELER. The new Jerusalem.

Senator DOUGLAS. Even in the western part of Virginia you look toward the rising sun? Is that correct?

Mr. WHEELER. The future of Virginia lies in the southwest. I will tell you that.

Mayor DILLARD. We are within, Mr. Chairman, about 35 or 40 miles of the line of the Appalachia area bill, if that helps. And this civic center would serve a lot of those people.

Senator DOUGLAS. Senator McIntyre.

Senator MCINTYRE. No questions. I just welcome the distinguished mayor and vice mayor.

Mayor DILLARD. Thank you.

Senator DOUGLAS. We are very happy to have you here. You come under the auspices of our well-liked chairman of the committee. We are very glad to have you.

(The following resumé was subsequently submitted for inclusion in the record:)

RÉSUMÉ OF THE RELOCATION AND HOUSING OF FAMILIES IN CURRENT
PROGRAMS, REDEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING AUTHORITY, ROANOKE, Va.

Commonwealth redevelopment project (project UR VA. 7-1).—Began in 1956; total families and individuals relocated, 395 (1956–58).

Kimball project (project R-46).-Total families and individuals, 305; anticipated date of displacement beginning in June 1967.

Downtown East project (project R-42).—Total (individuals only), 65; anticipated date of displacement beginning in February 1967.

Housing built and planned for construction by the city of Roanoke Redevelopment and Housing Authority.-Six hundred units of low-rent public housing already built and occupied: 105 units of low-rent public housing (site selected and architectural planning underway). A contract between this authority and Public Housing Administration will be executed during May 1966. One hundred and ninety-five units of low-rent public housing under program reservation (site selection for locations currently being studied).

By private developer.-One hundred and eight units of section 21D (3) FHA housing site cleared and construction to be started immediately.

Senator DOUGLAS. The next witness is the Honorable Wilbur Cohen, Under Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare. Mr. Brownstein, would you come forward at the same time?

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STATEMENT OF WILBUR J. COHEN, UNDER SEC
HEALTH, EDUCATION, AND WELFARE; ACCOMPAN
PHILIP LEE, ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR HEALTH
TIFIC AFFAIRS; DR. HARALD GRANING, PUBLIC H
VICE; AND PHILIP N. BROWNSTEIN, ASSISTANT
FOR MORTGAGE CREDIT, AND COMMISSIONER, FEI
ING ADMINISTRATION, DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING

DEVELOPMENT

Mr. COHEN. Thank you.

I'm accompanied by my colleagues here, Dr. Philip L ant Secretary of Health and Scientific Affairs of the De Harald Graning of the Public Health Service; and A tary Philip Brownstein of the Department of Housin Development.

Senator DOUGLAS. Thank you.

Mr. COHEN. It is a pleasure to appear before this co to express the Department's strong support for S. 3215, the distinguished chairman of the subcommittee, Senat This bill is identical to H.R. 9256, introduced by the chairman of the House Banking and Currency Commit have been held in the House on this bill.

This bill would amend the National Housing Act to gage insurance and authorize direct loans by the Depart ing and Urban Development to provide financial assis structing and equipping facilities for the group practi Assistant Secretary Philip Brownstein of the Depart ing and Urban Development will speak on the financing bill.

President Johnson expressed the need for this leg March 1 message on domestic health and education, w As medical practice becomes more complex, specializatio common. The number of general practitioners is decliningpared to 95,000 15 years ago. In 1950 there was 1 family ph 1,600 Americans. Today 2,900 Americans must depend on 1 f Group practice benefits both physicians and patients. It ma care more accessible for the patient. It enables the physicia combined talents of his colleagues.

High initial capital requirements and a shortage of long-ter restricted the development of this form of medical and dental

The President recommended that the Congress cons to assist voluntary associations in the construction an facilities for comprehensive group practice.

Mr. Chairman, we do not want any person in this denied access to the best medical care possible. Ou growing. The demand for medical services is increasin this growth Congress has inaugurated new programs u Professions Education Assistance Act of 1963, and th ing Act of 1964, to increase the supply of available ma

To provide the manpower and the facilities, and t sources to meet the demands which now exist and t foresee the President also recommended legislation t with three major areas of need: providing increased nu

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