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Mr. BARRETT. Mr. Secretary, please introduce your associates. to the subcommittee. Then you may proceed as you wish.

STATEMENT OF HON. JAMES T. LYNN, SECRETARY OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, ACCOMPANIED BY FLOYD H. HYDE, UNDER SECRETARY; WILLIAM LILLEY III, DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR POLICY DEVELOPMENT AND RESEARCH; JAMES MITCHELL, GENERAL COUNSEL; DAN KEARNEY, DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR HOUSING PRODUCTION AND MORTGAGE CREDIT; AND JAMES T. NEVILLE, ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR, FARMERS HOME ADMINISTRATION

Secretary LYNN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would be pleased to introduce the other gentlemen with me at the table.

On my left, I have Floyd H. Hyde, the Under Secretary of the Department; next to him is William Lilley, who is Deputy Assistant Secretary for Policy Development and Research, which was the arm of HUD that had day-to-day responsibility, overall responsibility, for the housing study.

On my immediate right, I have James Mitchell, who is the General Counsel of the Department. Next to him is Dan Kearney, who is Deputy Assistant Secretary for Housing Production and Mortgage Credit.

I also have with me, behind me this morning, a number of other officers of the Department, in case there are some questions upon which I should turn to them. They include Dr. Toot, the Assistant Secretary for Equal Opportunity; and next to her, H. R. Crawford, who is the Assistant Secretary for Housing Management; and Dave Meaker, who is Assistant Secretary for Community Planning and Development.

Mr. Chairman and members of the subcommittee, you have asked me to testify today on the major thrusts of H.R. 10036, the Housing and Urban Development Act of 1973, which you and Congressman Ashley introduced and which deals with both housing and community development; and two administration bills, H.R. 10688, the Housing Act of 1973, and H.R. 7277, the Better Communities Act.

I would like to start with housing. As you are aware, on September 19 the President forwarded to the Congress housing policy recommendations based on an extensive study of our housing programs. Those I recommendations were followed in 10 days by specific legislative proposals.

Before discussing the details of similarities and differences in approaches among the bills, a few words about the study are in order. The national housing policy review was conducted over approximately 6 months. It utilized the research of more than 100 people on the study teams, as well as over 100 private contractors. Very helpful assistance was received from Members of Congress and congressional staffs in a series of briefings and individual meetings.

Mr. BARRETT. Mr. Secretary, I am going to stop you there and give Mr. Widnall an opportunity to welcome you. He is a little late and I would like to give him an opportunity to make a statement here before you continue.

Secretary LYNN. Of course, Mr. Chairman.

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1 retary. The Secretary shall cooperate with the State insur

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ance authorities and use their examining facilities to the ex3 tent feasible.

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ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS

SEC. 10. (a) In addition to his other powers under law, 6 the Secretary shall have all powers necessary and incidental 7 to carrying out this Act including the powers set forth in sec8 tions 108, 701, 702, and 703 of the Revised National Hous9 ing Act.

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(b) Financial transactions under this Act in connection 11 with the writing or approval of guarantee agreements made 12 by the Secretary and the payment of claims made under 13 such agreements, shall be final and conclusive upon all of14 ficers of the Government.

15 (c) Any real property acquired and held by the Secre16 tary as a result of guarantee under this Act shall be subject 17 to taxation by any State, or subdivision thereof, to the same 18 extent, according to its value, as other real property is 19 taxed.

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APPROPRIATIONS

SEC. 11. There are hereby authorized to be appropriated

22 such sums as may be necessary to carry out this Act.

Mr. BARRETT. Mr. Secretary, please introduce your associates the subcommittee. Then you may proceed as you wish.

STATEMENT OF HON. JAMES T. LYNN, SECRETARY OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, ACCOMPANIED BY FLOYD H. HYDE, UNDER SECRETARY; WILLIAM LILLEY III, DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR POLICY DEVELOPMENT AND RESEARCH; JAMES MITCHELL, GENERAL COUNSEL; DAN KEARNEY, DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR HOUSING PRODUCTION AND MORTGAGE CREDIT; AND JAMES T. NEVILLE, ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR, FARMERS HOME ADMINISTRATION

Secretary LYNN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would be pleased to introduce the other gentlemen with me at the table.

On my left, I have Floyd H. Hyde, the Under Secretary of the Department; next to him is William Lilley, who is Deputy Assistant Secretary for Policy Development and Research, which was the arm of HUD that had day-to-day responsibility, overall responsibility, for the housing study.

On my immediate right, I have James Mitchell, who is the General Counsel of the Department. Next to him is Dan Kearney, who is Deputy Assistant Secretary for Housing Production and Mortgage Credit.

I also have with me, behind me this morning, a number of other officers of the Department, in case there are some questions upon which I should turn to them. They include Dr. Toot, the Assistant Secretary for Equal Opportunity; and next to her, H. R. Crawford, who is the Assistant Secretary for Housing Management; and Dave Meaker, who is Assistant Secretary for Community Planning and Development. Mr. Chairman and members of the subcommittee, you have asked me to testify today on the major thrusts of H.R. 10036, the Housing and Urban Development Act of 1973, which you and Congressman Ashley introduced and which deals with both housing and community development; and two administration bills, H.R. 10688, the Housing Act of 1973, and H.R. 7277, the Better Communities Act.

I would like to start with housing. As you are aware, on September 19 the President forwarded to the Congress housing policy recommendations based on an extensive study of our housing programs. Those I recommendations were followed in 10 days by specific legislative ¡ proposals.

Before discussing the details of similarities and differences in approaches among the bills, a few words about the study are in order. The national housing policy review was conducted over approximately 6 months. It utilized the research of more than 100 people on the study teams, as well as over 100 private contractors. Very helpful assistance was received from Members of Congress and congressional staffs in a series of briefings and individual meetings.

Mr. BARRETT. Mr. Secretary, I am going to stop you there and give Mr. Widnall an opportunity to welcome you. He is a little late and I would like to give him an opportunity to make a statement here before you continue.

Secretary LYNN. Of course, Mr. Chairman.

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1 retary. The Secretary shall cooperate with the State insur

2

3

ance authorities and use their examining facilities to the extent feasible.

4

5

ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS

SEC. 10. (a) In addition to his other powers under law,

6 the Secretary shall have all powers necessary and incidental

7

to carrying out this Act including the powers set forth in sec

8 tions 108, 701, 702, and 703 of the Revised National Hous9 ing Act.

10

(b) Financial transactions under this Act in connection

11 with the writing or approval of guarantee agreements made 12 by the Secretary and the payment of claims made under 13 such agreements, shall be final and conclusive upon all of14 ficers of the Government.

15

(c) Any real property acquired and held by the Secre16 tary as a result of guarantee under this Act shall be subject 17 to taxation by any State, or subdivision thereof, to the same 18 extent, according to its value, as other real property is 19 taxed.

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21

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APPROPRIATIONS

SEC. 11. There are hereby authorized to be appropriated 22 such sums as may be necessary to carry out this Act.

Mr. BARRETT. Mr. Secretary, please introduce your associates to the subcommittee. Then you may proceed as you wish.

STATEMENT OF HON. JAMES T. LYNN, SECRETARY OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, ACCOMPANIED BY FLOYD H. HYDE, UNDER SECRETARY; WILLIAM LILLEY III, DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR POLICY DEVELOPMENT AND RESEARCH; JAMES MITCHELL, GENERAL COUNSEL; DAN KEARNEY, DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR HOUSING PRODUCTION AND MORTGAGE CREDIT; AND JAMES T. NEVILLE, ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR, FARMERS HOME ADMINISTRATION

Secretary LYNN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would be pleased to introduce the other gentlemen with me at the table.

On my left, I have Floyd H. Hyde, the Under Secretary of the Department; next to him is William Lilley, who is Deputy Assistant Secretary for Policy Development and Research, which was the arm of HUD that had day-to-day responsibility, overall responsibility, for the housing study.

On my immediate right, I have James Mitchell, who is the General Counsel of the Department. Next to him is Dan Kearney, who is Deputy Assistant Secretary for Housing Production and Mortgage Credit.

I also have with me, behind me this morning, a number of other officers of the Department, in case there are some questions upon which I should turn to them. They include Dr. Toot, the Assistant Secretary for Equal Opportunity; and next to her, H. R. Crawford, who is the Assistant Secretary for Housing Management; and Dave Meaker, who is Assistant Secretary for Community Planning and Development.

Mr. Chairman and members of the subcommittee, you have asked me to testify today on the major thrusts of H. R. 10036, the Housing and Urban Development Act of 1973, which you and Congressman Ashley introduced and which deals with both housing and community development; and two administration bills, H.R. 10688, the Housing Act of 1973, and H.R. 7277, the Better Communities Act.

I would like to start with housing. As you are aware, on September 19 the President forwarded to the Congress housing policy recommendations based on an extensive study of our housing programs. Those recommendations were followed in 10 days by specific legislative proposals.

Before discussing the details of similarities and differences in approaches among the bills, a few words about the study are in order. The national housing policy review was conducted over approximately 6 months. It utilized the research of more than 100 people on the study teams, as well as over 100 private contractors. Very helpful assistance was received from Members of Congress and congressional staffs in a series of briefings and individual meetings.

Mr. BARRETT. Mr. Secretary, I am going to stop you there and give Mr. Widnall an opportunity to welcome you. He is a little late and I would like to give him an opportunity to make a statement here before you continue.

Secretary LYNN. Of course, Mr. Chairman.

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