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TABLE 2.-Number of civil officers and employees of the new agencies (created under the present administration) of the executive branch of the Federal Government, with additions and separations, in and outside the District of Columbia, for the month of October 1935

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1 Does not include 1 per diem "estimator on remodeling"

• Made a bureau of the Treasury by sec. 10, Public, No. 401 (74th Cong.) approved Aug. 29, 1935.

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TABLE 3.-Number of civil officers and employees of emergency agencies and agencies under the works program of the executive branch of the Federal Government, with additions and separations, in and outside the District of Columbia for the month of October 1935

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Permanent or emergency in District of Columbia.
Permanent or emergency outside District of Columbia.

NOTE.-Aggregate net pay roll for the civil executive branch for the month of October $119,867,437.

NUMBER OF RETIREMENTS AND CAUSE

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. You also gave us a table which showed increase or decrease over a period of years.

Mr. VIPOND. That is included in that table we have given you. Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. You also gave us some information in tabular form on the number of retirements and the cause of retirement. Mr. VIPOND. We can furnish that, too.

Mr. MITCHELL. The number of retirements is in this table, but as to the causes

Mr. VIPOND. That is simply the total number of cases handled. We have a larger, more detailed table than that which was supplied last year.

CONTRIBUTIONS TO AND WITHDRAWALS FROM THE RETIREMENT FUND

Mr. BOLTON. In connection with the retirement fund, I notice in the hearing last year you gave a table showing deductions for pay and interest, profit on the fund, the Government contribution-in other words, the total receipts in the fund-for several years back, but I notice that no reference was made to withdrawals from the fund. May we have that information as to the withdrawals and the net in the fund at the present time?

Mr. VIPOND. Yes.

Mr. WOODRUM. How much are we putting in now-$20,000,000? Mr. MITCHELL. $40,000,000 this year. $46,050,000 is asked for the coming fiscal year.

Mr. CUSTER. That is the estimate for 1937.

Mr. BOLTON. What is the amount estimated to be necessary to have in the fund?

Mr. VIPOND. The board of actuaries in our last report made a tentative estimate of $58,251,430 as the necessary appropriation. Mr. WOODRUM. Each year?

Mr. CUSTER. Each year for a period of 65 years.

Mr. VIPOND. But Congress gave us the money this year to make the quinquennial valuation of the fund, and when that is done the board of actuaries will make a definite and final recommendation as to what they think should be appropriated each year.

Mr. WOODRUM. We have never appropriated anything like what the actuaries said should be appropriated, have we?

Mr. VIPOND. No, sir.

Mr. WOODRUM. There has always been a very decided lay feeling among Members of Congress that the actuarial report would not pan out from the practical standpoint. That is, that there really was enough money being put into the fund. I was wondering how the Commission felt about that.

Mr. MITCHELL. I do not think that our opinion would be worth anything on that. We have the actuaries, and we just pass their report on.

Mr. WOODRUM. For several years we did not contribute any thing to the fund. How much is in it now?

Mr. VIPOND. I think $272,000,000 is the total amount-some figure like that.

Mr. CUSTER. The total amount of the appropriations.

Mr. WOODRUM. I mean the total amount in the fund, how much the Government and the employees have put in.

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