1 Does not include the legislative, judicial or military branches of the Federal Government, nor the employees of the District of Columbia. The Federal executive civil service includes both permanent and temporary positions; classified (subject to competitive examination) and unclassified (excepted from competitive examination by law or Executive order).

Approximately 35,000 clerks at third-class post offices and postal contractors, previously considered Federal employees, are omitted from the April 1932 and subsequent figures.

Number of officers and employees in each branch of the Federal executive civil service on June 30, 1933, with totals for Nov. 11, 1918 (armistice date), and later dates comprising classified and unclassified (which includes Presidential) positions

1

Does not include legislative or judicial services, nor the commissioned, warranted, or enlisted personnel of the military, naval, marine corps, or coast guard services, nor the government of the District of Columbia. 1 Approximated.

Includes 10,738 substitute clerks, first and second class offices; 12,915 substitute city and village delivery carriers; 2,124 substitute railway postal clerks; 783 substitute motor-vehicle employees; and 854 substitute Watchmen, laborers, etc. Does not include the following groups of employees, for which no figures are available: Clerks at third-class offices; contract employees; clerks at fourth-class offices, who are employed and paid by the postmaster; nor mail messengers.

Includes administrative offices or Merchant Fleet Corporation, but not workmen at terminals or in warehouses or employees on vessels.

Positions not subject to Civil Service Act.

Mr. WOODRUM. What has been your experience in connection with the examinations you have held during the past year; have they been necessary?

Mr. MITCHELL. Yes; they have all been necessary. I do not believe we have held one that has not been necessary.

Mr. VIPOND. During the year before last only 12,000 appointments were made to the classified service, and during the last year that had increased to 21,000.

Mr. WOODRUM. Most of those were clerical and stenographic positions?

Mr. VIPOND. Yes; they were largely positions of that sort, but, of course, there were some positions on the technical staffs of the departments.

The Bureau of Public Roads will take a considerable number of highway engineers, and the old Supervising Architect's Office took persons qualified in architectural drafting, and engineering, and as superintendents of construction, and persons of that sort.

In the field there were employments in the Forest Service and the National Park Service, and appointments in the post offices for clerks and carriers, although the number in the latter positions was very limited. There were quite a considerable number for the custodial positions.

STENOGRAPHER AND TYPIST EXAMINATIONS

Mr. WOODRUM. What are some of the positions for which you have held examinations in which there were a large number of applicants?

Mr. VIPOND. The examination for stenographer and typist.
Mr. WOODRUM. How many were they?

Mr. VIPOND. There were 66,000 applications for those positions. A few months before that we held an examination for various grades of engineering positions with 22,000 applications, and during this last spring we held an examination for storekeeper-gager, for which there were 49,200 applications.

Mr. WOODRUM. How many appointments have been made from the stenographer and typist examination?

Mr. VIPOND. That has not been rated yet. We did not get the printing money for the questions until toward the end of the spring, and when we were starting to hold the examination we found it necessary to stop that work very largely and hold examinations for the alcohol-tax unit.

Mr. WOODRUM. When will you have that register ready?

Mr. VIPOND. Next month.

Mr. WOODRUM. In the meantime where are the appointments made from?

Mr. VIPOND. From the existing register established 2 years ago. We held the examination more than 2 years ago, but it was not rated until about 2 years ago.

Mr. WOODRUM. What was the cost of the stenographer and typist examination?

Mr. CUSTER. We estimated that this one would cost about $59,430. That is the estimated cost of the last examination. The cost of the 1931 examination was $37,963.

STOREKEEPER-GAUGER EXAMINATIONS

Mr. WOODRUM. As a result of the storekeeper-gauger examination, how many appointments were made from that register?

Mr. YADEN. There were quite a number.

Mr. WOODRUM. Approximately how many, five hundred or a thousand?

Mr. VIPOND. We had figured on six or seven hundred.

Mr. YADEN. We have certified to fill 655 vacancies.

Mr. WOODRUM. Out of the 49,200, how many vere put on the eligible list?

Mr. VIPOND. A total of 8,921 competitors passed the examination for storekeeper-gauger and their names have been entered on the eligible register.

Mr. WOODRUM. Could you also give us something about the type of that examination?

Mr. VIPOND. Yes, sir.

Mr. WOODRUM. And also give us a statement in reference to the type of the stenographer and typist examination?

Mr. VIPOND. We can give you a set of the questions.

Mr. WOODRUM. The committee would like to have that, not necessarily to be inserted in the record, but for our information. Mr. YADEN. We will furnish you with a set of the questions in each of those examinations.

Mr. WOODRUM. Who prepares those questions? If you are going to have an examination for storekeeper-gauger, who sets up that examination?

Mr. VIPOND. It comes under Mr. Yaden's division, the examining division.

Mr. WOODRUM. Does the Civil Service Commission do it, or the agency that makes the appointments?

Mr. VIPOND. No; the Commission does it. We first confer with the Department as to the duties of the positions to be filled in the Department, and the qualifications necessary to get into the exami

nation at all. After that, we draft the type of examination, based on our experience with similar positions, and make up the examination. That comes under Mr. Yaden's division.

Mr. WOODRUM. What is your division now, Mr. Yaden?

Mr. YADEN. The examining division. I think I ought to say by way of explanation that we merely advise with the Department. The final responsibility rests with the Commission as to the requirements that go into the examination. We pretty largely take the Department's statement as to the duties to be performed by the employees. But that is merely advisory. The Commission is responsible for it. Mr. MITCHELL. But the qualifications for the position are agreed upon by the Department and the Commission.

Mr. YADEN. Yes.

Mr. WOODRUM. That is, the question as to the fixing of the age and other qualifications of that sort.

Mr. MITCHELL. Yes; the Commission has the last word. We do not have to agree with the Department if we do not want to, but as a general proposition we do.

NECESSITY FOR ESTABLISHING NEW STENOGRAPHIC AND TYPIST

REGISTER

Mr. WOODRUM. What is the justification for having one examination for stenographer and typist in 1931, which cost thirty or forty thousand dollars, and then another similar examination 2 years later?

Mr. VIPOND. Because we are running out of eligibles from States in arrears who would accept that class of appointment, as junior typists and junior stenographers.

Mr. WOODRUM. That is a very hard thing for a Member of Congress to understand, when he has to go through the private door of his office because he is so beset by people wanting positions.

Mr. MITCHELL. I think we can say that the best people have all gone, and the theory of holding an examination is to get a better class of people to put at the top of the list. That matter was gone into at considerable length, and we found there was a necessity for a new register in order to get a better class of people, who were not available when the former examination was held.

In conference with the President the opinion was expressed that the Commission not keep a register more than 3 years old. Of course, it is impossible to renew all registers more than that age with our present fund, but we are doing the best we can.

CIVIL-SERVICE RETIREMENT FUND ESTIMATE

Mr. LAMBERTSON. Do your estimates contemplate providing a sufficient amount of money this year for the retirement fund, or to make up for the lack of appropriation in other years for that fund? Mr. VIPOND. The Board of Actuaries in their last report recommended that the annual appropriation be 52 million some-hundredthousand dollars. That was submitted to the Bureau of the Budget and they decided to submit an estimate here of $40,000,000 for the retirement fund, as compared with $20,850,000 that has been appropriated by Congress each year for a number of years past.

Mr. LAMBERTSON. That will allow them to practically catch up? Mr. VIPOND. Yes.