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Mr. TABER. Are all the increases requested confined entirely to additional requirements as a result of that increase?

Commander LEFFLER. For additional requirements because of the increased demands since the basic appropriation was made up.

REPAIRS AND ALTERATIONS

Mr. TABER. You have an increase of $100,000 for repairs and alterations, and $142,670 in the appropriation bill for 1942. Why are you going to need all of that, if you are putting up new buildings? You will not need that amount for repairs.

Commander LEFFLER. There is a list of items amounting to $540,000 for repairs that should be made, and the request for $100,000 of that amount is made here.

Mr. TABER. You feel you need all of the $100,000, notwithstanding that you have $142,000 in the regular bill?

Commander LEFFLER. Yes.

Mr. TABER. It seems foolish to have that much extra in repairs and alterations.

Commander LEFFLER. He has $540,000 worth of projects, and he is going as fast as he can with the money he can get.

Mr. TABER. Is that list of repairs set up anywhere in your estimates? Commander LEFFLER. Yes.

PROPOSED REPAIRS FROM CURRENT APPROPRIATION AND SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDS REQUESTED

Mr. TABER. Put in the record a list of all the repairs you were figuring on doing with the $142,000 contained in the regular bill, and a separate list for the $100,000 you are requesting today. Commander LEFFLER. Yes.

(The statement requested follows:)

To be accomplished with funds in basic appropriation:

1. Repairs to distributing system___

$76, 170

2. Barracks B, water proofing interior walls, new plaster, miscellaneous

repairs to structure and renewal of galley equipment_

50, 000

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4. Building No. 9-library, water proofing walls, new sash, and new roof_

3. Building No. 8-swimming pool, new filter, heater pumps, piping, and necessary painting

$250 2, 000

6, 500

4, 225

6. Building No. 13-waiting room, miscellaneous repairs including new floor covering-

5. Building No. 10-administration building, new roof and all new windows.

20, 000

500

7. Building No. 14-incinerator, miscellaneous repairs_

8. Building No. 18-storehouse, new roof and miscellaneous repairs.
9. Building No. 23-laundry, miscellaneous repairs and addition to
building.

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10. Building No. 27--gymnasium and chapel, new floors, new fire escapes, and miscellaneous repairs_

11. Building No. 24-storage building, miscellaneous repairs_

8, 000 1,250

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12. Building No. 43-boathouse, new roof covering, new piers, and
repairs to doors, floor, and steel work..

13. Building No. 44-barn, miscellaneous repairs__-
14. Building No. 52-commissary building, new elevator and miscella-
neous repairs_

Total..

$5,000 600

9, 000

104, 975

MATERIALS

Mr. LUDLOw. You have set up here under the items for materials three times the amount estimated for in the regular appropriation bill for 1942. What is the explanation for that increase?

Commander LEFFLER. Adding up all the items for materials on page 4, a large item in that is $29,975 for buildings. The increase under this item is required by reason of additional consumable supplies for new barracks, storehouses, and other buildings, and material for the upkeep and repairs of all buildings and the equipment in them. Mr. LUDLOW. I was struck by the fact that the amount requested here is three times what was asked for in the regular bill.

Commander LEFFLER. That is because they are so far behind the repair program that they need to do the work as fast as they get the funds to do it with.

Mr. SNYDER. This is at Newport, R. I.?

Commander LEFFLER. Yes.

Mr. SNYDER. Do they have a band-training school there?
Commander LEFFLER. Band school?

Mr. SNYDER. Yes.

Commander LEFFLER. No; there is no band school there now.
Mr. SNYDER. They did have at one time?

Captain LAKE. I do not recall how long ago they had one.
Mr. SNYDER. There was one there about 8 years ago.

they train the boys for the band?

Commander LEFFLER. They have a band school here.
Mr. TABER. Down at the Navy yard?

Commander LEFFLER. Yes.

NAVAL TRAINING STATION, GREAT LAKES, ILL.

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Mr. WOODRUM. Will you insert in the record the first page summary and pages 1 and 2 for the naval training station at Great Lakes. (The statements referred to follow:)

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PURPOSE OF THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS

To provide for increased recruit and reserve training schedule.

GENERAL STATEMENT

Total amount required for the year already appropriated Naval Appropriation Act approved May 6, 1941, $318,500.

Additional funds requested

The additional funds requested herein are to provide for a greatly expanded recruit training program over and above that contemplated when estimates were submitted and appropriations made for the fiscal year 1942. It was then planned to give 8,220 recruits an 8 weeks' period of training, resulting in a recruit population of approximately 1,500 men. The station now has facilities for 7,050. With the additional barracks contemplated, for completion December 31, 1941, facilities will be available for a total daily capacity of 10,650 men, and it is planned to operate to capacity until the end of 1942. During the first 6 months of 1942 based on facilities now available, it is estimated a total of 17,250 men will be trained. During the second half of 1942, upon completion of the additional facilities, it is estimated an additional 25,100 men will be trained, or a grand total of 42,350 during the entire fiscal year. The daily average recruit population for the year will be 8,400 men. Comparison of numbers and unit costs as follows:

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Based upon information furnished by the Bureau of Yards and Docks on June 21 1941, the following is a list of buildings contemplated which will be in operation during 1942, the cost of maintenance and operation of which was not included in 1942 appropriations.

Items before House Appropriations Committee:

Recruit receiving building.

Recreation facilities, including buildings and accessories_
Drill hall. _

Four B-1 barracks buildings.

Roads, walks, and services..

Items before Navy Department Budget Officer:

9 barracks buildings at $100,000 each_ _

Mess hall and galley, including equipment_

Four service school buildings, including equipment_
Recreation building--

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Administration, cold storage, laundry, and brig building-
Roads, walks, and service lines-

Collateral expenses-

$180,000

515, 000

160, 000 360, 000 50, 000

1, 265, 000

900, 000 500, 000

2, 350, 000

200, 000

300, 000

500, 000

100, 000

4, 850, 000

MATERIALS

Mr. WOODRUM. Have you a statement about the Great Lakes? Commander LEFFLER. The largest item there again is for material in the amount of $294,874.

Mr. WOODRUM. This covers the same type of operation that you have in other stations?

Commander LEFFLER. Yes.

Mr. TABER. How many men did you previously figure on at the Great Lakes?

Commander LEFFLER. Originally Great Lakes Training Station was assigned 8,220 recruits and service school students. We now plan to raise the quota to 51,511.

Mr. TABER. And this increase is entirely due to that set-up?

Commander LEFFLER. Yes; due to increased plant and increase in number of students.

Mr. TABER. Will you insert in the record the break-down appearing on page 11?

(The statement referred to follows:)

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NAVAL TRAINING STATION, NORFOLK, VA.

Mr. WOODRUM. Will you insert in the record the summary of objects, on the front page, and page 1 of the justifications, covering the Naval Training Station at Norfolk.

(The statements referred to follow:)

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PURPOSE OF THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS

The purpose for which these additional funds are required is to provide for expansion of recruit training facilities, including maintenance and operation, and repairs to buildings and distributing systems, services and upkeep of grounds, based on training 32,352 recruits, including mess attendants, during the fiscal year 1942.

GENERAL STATEMENT

The 1942 Budget estimates submitted by this station were based on 10,280 recruits, including mess attendants, as directed by the Bureau. On the basis of an 8-week training period, this station can handle 32,352 recruits, inclusive of mess attendants, and these estimates are based as follows:

(a) July 1941 through June 1942, 32,352 recruits, an increase of 22,072 over the number estimated for in the original 1942 Budget estimates.

(b) Since submission of the 1942 Budget the following buildings are anticipated during the fiscal year 1942: Dispensary (250 beds), recreation building, barracks (2), service building, 28 sets chief petty officer family quarters, instruction building, and clothing and small-stores storehouse.

(c) The original appropriation was based on the assignment of 2,400 serviceschool students during the fiscal year 1942. This supplemental estimate is based on an estimated increase of 1,900 students, to a total of 4,300.

Commander LEFFLER. There was originally assigned to Norfolk Training Station 12,680 men under training; students and recruits now planned total 42,077.

Mr. WOODRUM. You are asking for $200,000 additional?

Commander LEFFLER. Yes.

Mr. TABER. The principal item here is for heat, light, water, and materials.

Mr. THOMAS. Are you going to be able to take care of the additional 30,000 men with the $200,000 you are requesting?

Commander LEFFLER. That station is in pretty good condition. Mr. THOMAS. In other words, you have spent considerable money at that station at the time you previously assigned the 12,680, and the plant will take care of the 42,000?

Commander LEFFLER. Yes.

FLEET TRAINING

Mr. WOODRUM. $83,500 is requested for fleet training.

Commander HOLLOWAY. This is to complete the camera party in the current fiscal year rather than carrying it over into the 1943.

The situation has developed quite rapidly with the Atlantic forces increasing due to the force being brought from the Pacific, and in addition to that, strategical deployment of that fleet, scattering it to the extent that we have, increases overhead in equipment beyond what we anticipated. And it is the camera party which is the ultimate in battle training; it is the final word, you might say, and for that reason I am very anxious to complete it this year and give the Atlantic Fleet the full benefit of these services.

Mr. WOODRUM. Put that first sheet in the record. (The statement referred to follows:)

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