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Mohole project table of organization, submitted by Dr. Water-

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"Seismologist's concept of the interior structure of the earth,”
chart submitted by Dr. Waterman.

Series of questions submitted by letter to proposed contractors
re utilizing of the Amsoc staff.

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Communications submitted to the committee-Continued

Bronk, Dr. Detlev W., letter to Dr. Alan Waterman dated June 23,
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Burk, C. A., memorandum regarding the status of the CORE pro-
posal dated January 30, 1963.

Haworth, Dr. Leland J., letter dated November 20, 1963, explaining
letter which enclosed series of questions for proposed contractors..
Hedberg, Hollis D., Chairman, Amsoc Committee-

Letter to Drs. Bronk and Waterman re Amsoc Committee recom-
mendations on future of Mohole project...
Letter to the Amsoc Committee dated March 10, 1962.

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Report of the Chairman to the members of the Amsoc Committee
dated January 17, 1962.

Keller, Dr. Geoffrey, letter to Dr. Hollis D. Hedberg dated February
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MOHOLE PROJECT

TUESDAY, JUNE 25, 1963

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON OCEANOGRAPHY OF THE

COMMITTEE ON MERCHANT MARINE AND FISHERIES,

Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met at 10 a.m., pursuant to call, in room 219, Cannon House Office Building, Hon. Alton Lennon (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

Mr. LENNON. The subcommittee will be in order.

We welcome you gentlemen and we are delighted to see some ladies in our audience this morning.

Today we are starting the first of the hearings in the 88th Congress on the Mohole project. As many of you know, the subcommittee held hearings in the 86th and 87th Congresses on the project and we are interested in the present status and what its future will be.

Our witness today will be Dr. Alan T. Waterman, Director of the National Science Foundation who, we have learned with regret, is about to be retired from the Foundation.

I think it could be said that there has been much controversy in many publications concerning the Mohole project and the manner of letting the contract. The Senate has inserted in the Congressional Record the General Accounting Office report on the method of contracting and it is not our purpose to reopen this question. We are, however, naturally concerned with the present status of the Mohole project and what its future will be.

Following Dr. Waterman's remarks today, we shall continue hearings at a later date.

I think it ought to be said for the benefit of Dr. Waterman and the others attending here this morning that it is difficult at this time in the session of the Congress to get a full subcommittee for the reason that most of the members are on other important legislative committees and some of the committees now are in the process of actually marking up their bills in executive session, and that is the explanation for the small group you see here as members of the subcommittee. I am sure and I am satisfied that this subcommittee would be very appreciative if Dr. Waterman would explain for the benefit not only of the new members of the subcommittee but as a sort of refresher for the old members what the Mohole project is all about and describe the role that the National Science Foundation and the National Academy of Sciences play or can be expected to play in the furtherance of this project.

Dr. Waterman, we would be happy if you would come to the witness stand. If you have those that you would like to be associated

with you in your remarks, we would be delighted to have them sit with you.

STATEMENT OF DR. ALAN T. WATERMAN, DIRECTOR; PAUL A. SCHERER, ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR, ADMINISTRATION; DR. WILLIAM E. BENSON, HEAD, EARTH SCIENCES SECTION; AND AARON ROSENTHAL, COMPTROLLER, NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION

Dr. WATERMAN. Thank you very much, sir.

Mr. LENNON. We are mighty happy to see these exhibits which will illustrate your testimony as you move along.

You may proceed, sir.

Dr. WATERMAN. Thank you, sir.

To introduce the witnesses sitting here with me, I would like to introduce Mr. Scherer who is Associate Director for Administration of the Foundation, Mr. Rosenthal who is Comptroller, and Dr. Benson who is the Head of the Earth Science Section and the scientific officer for the Mohole project.

Mr. LENNON. Thank you.

We are delighted to have you gentlemen with us and hope you will participate and offer anything that you have in connection with

it.

Dr. WATERMAN. First, Mr. Chairman, I have a statement which I would like to read to you which I think will cover the points that you have mentioned, and I believe this is quite important because this is a rather complex project, as you know. It has many angles and a great many points of interest.

Before starting on the statement, I should like merely to point out that this project is a very farsighted one and of extraordinary scientific interest.

In realizing that we can punch through the crust of the earth by stages and go through to this mysterious layer called the mantle which we know very little about but which evidence shows us is there, we are opening up a new field which will be of very great interest, indeed, scientifically. When such areas are of interest scientifically there is no question of their ultimate importance for our better understanding of the earth and what it can mean to us in exploiting the different possibilities.

The first point, then, is this remarkable opportunity we have. It is the first time that we have ever considered that this would be possible and, as such, one might put it in the same category as space exploration. It is a new field.

The second point is that this has a great deal of international and national interest. It has been discussed in the international scientific unions and the fact that the United States has decided that this is feasible and it will go ahead with it is of considerable national interest and adds important international aspects as you may very well

understand.

I talked to a couple of British visitors last week and they told me that one of the chief topics of discussions on the continent among the scientists was how we are making out with this attempt to drill into the earth's crust and find out what the properties are in the mantle and so forth.

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