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HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON INTERSTATE AND FOREIGN COMMERCE

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

EIGHTY-NINTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

ON

H.R. 2230, H.R. 7165, and S. 1098
BILLS TO AMEND SECTION 1(14) (a) OF THE INTERSTATE
COMMERCE ACT TO INSURE THE ADEQUACY OF THE
NATIONAL RAILROAD FREIGHT CAR SUPPLY, AND FOR

OTHER PURPOSES
(AND SIMILAR BILLS)

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COMMITTEE ON INTERSTATE AND FOREIGN COMMERCE

OREN HARRIS, Arkansas, Chairman
HARLEY O. STAGGERS, West Virginia WILLIAM L. SPRINGER, Illinois
WALTER ROGERS, Texas

J. ARTHUR YOUNGER, California SAMUEL N. FRIEDEL, Maryland

SAMUEL L. DEVINE, Ohio TORBERT H. MACDONALD, Massachusetts ANCHER NELSEN, Minnesota JOUN JARMAN, Oklahoma

HASTINGS KEITH, Massachusetts LEO W. O'BRIEN, New York

WILLARD 8. CURTIN, Pennsylvania JOHN E. MOSS, California

GLENN CUNNINGHAM, Nebraska JOHN D, DINGELL, Michigan

JAMES T. BROYHILL, North Carolina PAUL G, ROGERS, Florida

JAMES HARVEY, Michigan
HORACE R. KORNEGAY, North Carolina ALBERT W. WATSON, South Carolina
LIONEL VAN DEERLIN, California

TIM LEE CARTER, Kentucky
J.J. PICKLE, Texas
FRED B. ROONEY, Pennsylvania
JOHN M. MURPHY, New York
DAVID E. SATTERFIELD III, Virginia
DANIEL J. RONAN, Ilinois
J. OLIVA HUOT, New Hampshire
JAMES A. MACKAY, Georgia
JOHN J. GILLIGAN, Oblo
CHARLES P. FARNSLEY, Kentucky
JOHN BELL WILLIAMS, Mississippi

W. E. WILLIAMSON, Clerk
KENNETH J. PAINTER, Assistant Clerk

Professional Staff
ANDREW STEVENSON

JAMES M. MENGER, Jr.
KURT BORCHARDT

WILLIAM J. Dixon

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Hearings held on-

Page

October 5, 1965.

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October 6, 1965.

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October 7, 1965.

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Text of -

H.R. 2230.

2

H.R. 7165.

2

S. 1098.

3

Report of -

Agriculture, Department of -

Bureau of the Budget.

3,5

Commerce, Department of.

6

Defense, Department of.

Interstate Commerce Commission.

4

Office of Emergency Planning-

9

Statement of—

Andrews, Hon. Mark, a Representative in Congress from the State of

North Dakota..

23

Battin, Hon. James F., a Representative in Congress from the State

of Montana

33

Bongartz, Richard, counsel, Pennsylvania Railroad.

173
Brooks, Robert D., general solicitor, New York Central Railroad... 140
Burks, Carroll P., president, American Short Line Railroad Associa-
tion.

191
Connell, Alburn J., director, systems and research, Boston & Maine
Corp---

228

Curtis, Hon. Carl T., U.S. Senator from the State of Nebraska..

18

Dole, Hon. Bob, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Kansas

35

Duncan, Hon. Robert B., a Representative in Congress from the State

of Oregon.

133

Foley, Hon. Thomas S., a Representative in Congress from the State

of Washington..

97

Hicks, Hon. Floyd V., a Representative in Congress from the State of

Washington...

25

Hill, Hon. Jonel C., public utility commissioner, State of Oregon. 181

Hilton, Edmund W., Jr., traffic manager, American Plywood Asso-

ciation, Tacoma, Wash..

61

Karth, Hon. Joseph E., a Representative in Congress from the State

of Minnesota.

37

Lamprecht, vice president, systems operations, Southern Pacific Co.. 233

Langen, Hon. Odin, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Minnesota..

99

Magnuson, Hon. Warren G., U.S. Senator from the State of Washing-

ton.

10

Martin, Hon. Dave, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Nebraska..

19

Martin, Eldon, vice president and general counsel, Burlington Rail-

road,

85, 100

Meeds, Hon. Lloyd, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Washington...

28

Miller, E. P., chairman, Car Service Division, Association of American

Railroads

1401

Mize, Hon. Chester, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Kapsas..

33

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Statement of_Continued

Nelsen, Hon. Ancher, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Minnesota.

Newton, Carl E., special counsel, Boston & Maine Corp., and the New

York, New Haven & Hartford Railroad.

Olsen, Hon. Arnold, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Montana..

Pfahler, Robert P., Director, Bureau of Safety and Service, Interstate

Commerce Commission...

Perlman, Alfred E., president and chief executive officer, New York

Central Railroad..

Redlin, Hon. Rolland, a Representative in Congress from the State of

North Dakota..
Roncalio, Hon. Teno, a Representative ir Congress from the State of

Wyoming-

Smith, Emmet J., member, Traffic Advisory Committee, American

Plywood Association.
Smucker, David E., vice president, Pennsylvania Railroad.
Stewart, Oliver Lee, executive secretary and traffic officer, Southwest

Oregon Shippers' Traffic Association, Inc.-

Ullman, Hon. Al, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Oregon..

Waterman, Jeremiah C., general attorney, Southern Pacific Co---

Webb, Hon. Charles A., Chairman, Interstate Commerce Commission.

Wyatt, Hon. Wendell, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Oregon.-

Additional information submitted for the record by—

American Farm Bureau Federation, letter from Matt Triggs, assistant

legislative director..

American Plywood Associatior:

Industry shipments of plywood— All grades, by States (map).

Locations of plywood and veneer plants in Western States (map) --

Membership roster, October 1965.--

Production of softwood plywood, by States, 1925-64 (table)

Traffic advisory committee.-

American Short Line Railroad Association:

"Budget Planning-Buying Is More Than Paying" (article from

Oct. 11, 1965, issue of Railway Age).
Letter from Carroll P. Burks, president.
“Southern Pacific Plans a Cut in Freight Rate To Ease Car

Shortage" (article from Oct. 13, 1965, issue of the Wall Street

Journal).
"What About the Short Lines?" (article from Oct. 4, 1965, issue

of Railway Age)

Association of American Railroads:

Equipment data as reported to Car Service Division by class I

railroads and railroad owned and controlled private refrigerator

car lines (table)

Flexi-Van, a service of New York Central System --

Letter from Gen. John J. Lane, commanding officer of the Military

Traffic Management and Terminal Service, Department of the

Army--

Morthly summary, CCC grain releases (table) -

Revenue freight cars owned or leased by railroads and private car

lines, July 1, 1965 (table)-----

Barnes, Wendell B., executive vice president, Western Wood Products

Association, Portland, Oreg.:

Appendix I-Cars owned, installed, and retired by class I rail-

roads, by years, 1955–64 (table)----

Appendix 11-Summary of carloading survey, for the Douglas-

fir and western pine region (table) -

Statement.

Bauxite & Northern Railway Co., Bauxite, Ark., letter from James

Davies, Jr., general manager--

Biaggini, Benjamin F., president, Southern Pacific Co., remarks be-

fore the American Plywood Association...

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