Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Well, there are a lot of items in here for contingent expenses.

Mr. LAWTON. There are personal services in those.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. And under Capitol Buildings and Grounds I notice Capitol Building, Capital Grounds, legislative garage, and Senate Office Building. Those are all pay items?

Mr. LAWTON. There are some pay amounts in each of those appropriations. They cover the services of a few employees as well as expenses other than pay of personnel.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. On page 47 I see the Library of Congress. I see Union Catalogs and motion-picture projects and Library buildings. Is that all salaries?

Mr. LAWTON. That is the salary part of that item. They have some salary items in them. They are a combination of salaries and other expense appropriations.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. How much of this appropriation is not for salaries and expenses?

Mr. LAWTON. All the amounts included in that title are for Pay. Act costs.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. I thought that you said there were some other expenses.

Mr. LAWTON. There are some other expenses involved in the appropriation. This appropriation is available for salaries and expenses, but the amounts included in here are only to meet that part of the appropriation that applies to the Pay Act increases under the salary portion of those appropriations.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Every dollar in here, regardless of the title, is in fact for salaries?

Mr. LAWTON. It is for the Pay Act increases-salaries and overtime, except, of course, the Post Office, the expense allowances that were added by Public Law 134, which were a part of that same Pay Act increase. They are in effect salary increments when a rural carrier is given an allowance for transportation.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. And soil conservation operations, $4,575,000. Is that all salaries?

Mr. LAWTON. Yes.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. And under the Interior Department items, such as surveys of public land and preservation of Indian reservations, development of water supplies, irrigation and drainage, improvements, operation and maintenance, maintenance, operation, repairs.

Mr. LAWTON. That would be the salary portion included in the appropriation.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. The Bureau of Reclamation, the Yuma project.

Mr. LAWTON. All salaries.

Mr. TABER. Loans and grants, rural rehabilitation, $3,200,000. Mr. LAWTON. That is personnel engaged under that appropriation.

WAIVER OF RESTRICTIONS ON PERSONNEL IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. How about this waiver over here on page 80? Mr. LAWTON. In a great many appropriations there are salary limitations for various purposes, largely for salaries in the District of Columbia, and those limitations were fixed on the basis of the original

appropriation which did not include the Pay Act increase. Now, those will have to be increased in the same amount as the Pay Act

-costs.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. You are suggesting waiving all restrictions limiting amounts that may be expended not only for personal services but for other purposes, or for amounts which may be transferred between appropriations and authorizations. Do we need such a sweeping waiver as that?

Mr. LAWTON. They are waived to the extent necessary to meet increased Pay Act costs authorized by these acts, and they are only waived to the extent they are necessary to meet those costs.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Why do you need to waive restrictions limiting amounts which may be expended for other purposes as distinct from personal services?

Mr. STONE. You will have some limitation on carrying out a particular function. In the Federal Trade Commission, for example, the wool-products labeling limitation is not against personal services only but against the entire function.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. If you waive limitations on personal services, would not that cover what is necessary?

Mr. LAWTON. In any event, these limitations are only waived for one reason to meet the increased Pay Act costs. They are not waived for any other purpose.

PRINTING AND BINDING

Mr. LUDLOW. We have one other item here contained in House Document 463, the item of printing and binding. There was previously appropriated $65,000. We presently have before us an estimate for an additional amount of $28,000. Tell us why that additional amount is needed.

Mr. LAWTON. The supplemental estimate of $28,000 under the appropriation "Printing and binding, 1946" is required to meet the costs of printing the supplementary budgets for the military services and war agencies and for government corporations. The increased cost of the 1947 budget submitted in January has nearly exhausted the present appropriation. The 1946 obligations are now estimated at $93,000, against which an appropriation of $65,000 is available. These estimated obligations are as follows:

The cost of printing the 1947 Budget was greater than anticipated for two principal reasons: First, the combining of the Budget and state of the Union messages, and second, the additional changes which had to be made in order to include in the figures the supplemental appropriations which were enacted in mid-December. The number of pages in the 1947 Budget was almost identical with the

number in the 1946 Budget. The cost, however, is nearly $5,000 greater. I might point out in this connection that the sale price to the public of the paper-bound copies of the 1947 Budget is $2.75 a copy, whereas the price of the 1946 Budget was $2.25 a copy.

The amount estimated for the war supplement is the same as last year's cost inasmuch as the bulk of the document consists of the estimates for the military services.

In connection with the corporation budget, a hasty estimate was prepared after the passage of the bill and the supplemental appropriation of $5,000 was granted. It was assumed that some money would be available because of the elimination of certain corporate material from the 1947 Budget. As was previously pointed out, the total pages ran about the same and the savings did not materialize. Furthermore, after a review of the requirements of the Corporation Act and a detailed discussion with the representatives of the corporations, it now appears that approximately 400 pages will be required to present the budget of the 55 corporations subject to the act. We have estimated the cost at $50 per page which is $10 less than the cost of the 1947 Budget. It is believed that the time schedule and the nature of the material involved will enable this volume to be produced at a lower rate than the Budget document.

I would like to point out that there is an offset to the cost of this printing in that the Bureau of the Budget bears the composition costs for the congressional documents resulting from the submission of these estimates whereas if the material were submitted in typewritten form the cost would be charged against the funds for congressional printing.

I might say in connection with the Corporation budget we had anticipated a reduction in certain of the personnel data that has been carried under the administrative expenses, but after discussion with the people in the committees handling it, it was decided that we would have to present that information in the same detail as in the past. That added some to the size of the document.

Furthermore, we thought that, in the first submission of the Corporation budget, it might be necessary to present more textual detail than might be necessary later in order to make the Budget intelligible to Congress and the public.

Mr. LUDLOW. Is all your printing done at the Government Printing Office?

Mr. LAWTON. Yes.

Mr. LUDLOW. And your costs are going up all the time?

Mr. LAWTON. I can give you a little example of that.

The 1944 Budget document, which was printed in the fiscal year 1943, was 990 pages, and it cost $44,789. The Budget for 1947 is 976 pages, and will cost about $61,000, an increase of almost 50 percent in that period for the same number of pages and the same type of document.

Mr. LUDLOW. What have been your expenditures during the first 7 months of this fiscal year?

Mr. LAWTON. Our expenditures are practically all in 1 month of the fiscal year, the month of December, when we print the Budget. That is $61,000. Prior to that we had expended about $570 for binding and $1,150 for printed forms.

Mr. LUDLOW. Which of these documents that you print are salable documents?

Mr. LAWTON. They are all sold by the Government Printing office. The sales are limited. I would imagine that there are only around 500 copies sold to the public. Most of the copies are purchased by Government agencies and charged to their printing appropriation, but we bear the entire composition cost.

Mr. LUDLOW. Do you know the revenues derived from the sale of these documents?

Mr. LAWTON. I would not think more than $1,000.

Mr. TABER. For printing of the war supplement you have $9,000 How many pages do you expect that will be?

Mr. LAWTON. Two hundred and twenty-five is the estimated number.

Mr. TABER. Was not that included in your last year's operations? Mr. LAWTON. Last year the war supplement was 227 pages and approximately the same cost as this. The expenditure was paid from the President's fund.

Mr. TABER. How about the Corporation budget?

Mr. LAWTON. The separate Corporation budget is brand new. On the other hand, it is an item that has in part been included in other budgets heretofore. Specifically, the administrative expenses of certain of the corporations. There has been somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 or 70 pages of corporate material in prior budgets. There are specific requirements in the Corporation Control Act as to the type of statements and other data that must be submitted. Mr. TABER. Was that all?

Mr. LAWTON. That is right.

Mr. TABER. I just do not understand why the civilian budget would be so large with these several pages out and the war activities over; nor do I understand why the war budget would be as large or cover as many pages with the war over. I do not know why this Corporation budget should cover so much. How many pages are you figuring on?

Mr. LAWTON. Four hundred. The larger corporations we figure at about 11 pages, and that will scale down for the smaller ones. The average will be somewhat less than 8 pages for each corporation. Mr. TABER. It does not look as though it has been scaled down correctly as compared with previous years.

Mr. LAWTON. Last year's Budget was 972 pages and this year's Budget is 976; just about the same.

Mr. TABER. Just four pages more?

Mr. LAWTON. Yes.

Mr. TABER. Then you have your war budget just the same. That ought to be shorter.

Mr. LAWTON. The reduction in funds does not reduce the pages because you have the same number of appropriations and the same amount of detail. In the case of the war agencies where in some cases there may be no appropriations made for 1947, there will still be obligations scheduled for 1946 and 1945, and in some cases some language relating to liquidation.

Now, I might say that in 1942, the last year when it was combined into one budget, the total number of pages was 1,316, and the total

number of pages that will appear for the regular Budget and the war supplemental this year will be 1,200. It is less than the 1942 number of pages and the corporations will, of course, increase that amount. We have been figuring the corporations' budget at $10 a page less than the regular 1947 Budget, and the war supplemental at $20 a page less. We figured that at $40 a page because of the time factor. There is not quite the same time schedule, or as much overtime on the part of the Government Printing Office as was required in the submission of the annual Budget.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. What was the total appropriation for the Budget in 1946?

Mr. LAWTON. For printing and binding?

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. No; your over-all appropriation.

Mr. LAWTON. $2,729,357, exclusive of the transfer from OWI, and that transfer was $483,000.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. How much have you spent in the first 6 months of this fiscal year?

Mr. LAWTON. I do not have that figure with me.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Will you furnish it for the record?

Mr. LAWTON. Yes.

(The information follows:)

The obligations for the first 6 months were $1,672,980. The supplemental appropriation granted last December was for expenditure in the second half of the year so the expenditures in that period will be greater.

POSSIBILITY OF TRANSFER OF OTHER FUNDS TO PRINTING AND BINDING

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. What I have in mind is this: You have had almost $3,200,000, including the funds transferred from the OWI, and $28,000 seems to be a pretty small percentage of that. Why can you not absorb this $28,000? Why cannot we authorize a transfer to take care of that?

Mr. LAWTON. I would be glad to look into that to see if it can be done.

Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. I would appreciate your putting some figures in the record on it.

Mr. LAWTON. I will.

(The information follows:)

After reviewing the obligations under the appropriations available to the Bureau and the projected expenditures to the end of the year, and assuming that the amount requested in the Pay Act supplemental will be granted, it may be possible to transfer funds sufficient to take care of this $28,000 item. There should be sufficient latitude, however, granted so that the money might be made up by transfers from all three of the other appropriations available to the Bureau, since the balance in any one fund might not be sufficient. Language such as the following would accomplish this purpose:

"Not to exceed $28,000 may be added to the appropriation for printing and binding, Bureau of the Budget, by transfer from any or all of the appropriations available to the Bureau of the Budget for the fiscal year 1946."

Mr. LUDLOW. Is it a requirement that you have your printing and binding done at the Government Printing Office?

Mr. LAWTON. We have no authority for printing outside of the Government Printing Office.

Mr. LUDLOW. If you were free to shop around at private establishments, do you think that you could make a better deal?