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technical curricula offered. The urgency of equipment needs in a technical environment is mandatory.

Scope of Work (continued

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CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECTS

M. NATCHER. Unless there are additional questions on administration we will take up capital improvements where the amount requested is $2,380,000 for two projects.

PERMANENT CAMPUS (SEE P. 708)

First for Permanent Campus you are requesting $500,000 for preliminary survey and $1,740,000 for construction services. Justify this item if you will please and tell us if the acquisition of the site depends upon the relocation of the other facilities on the property.

Dr. DENNARD. The $500,000 for the preliminary survey incident to the master planning of the site would provide for traffic surveys, analysis of the total site, the land, and assessment of any buildings that might be on that property that could be retained permanently on the site. This would give us the kind of definite information we need to build our construction estimates that would be presened subsequently. The $1.7 million represents roughly 10 percent of construction costs for 435,000 square feet of floor space.

Based on present-day 1971 estimates of about $40 a square foot excluding any inflationary costs associated with construction, our own estimate indicates that $1.7 million would construct 425,000 gross square feet of floor space, 70 percent of which would be totally usable, which in effect would cover the total cost of duplicating on the north side of Van Ness Street the amount of square footage that currently exists on the south side.

Mr. NATCHER. If approved, could these funds be utilized during the fiscal year 1972, Doctor?

Dr. DENNARD. We feel confident they could be obligated in fiscal year 1972.

CONCERN OVER TIMING OF REQUEST FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES

Mr. NATCHER. Dr. Dennard, I was going to inquire as to why you are requesting money for construction services. I understand the need for your preliminary survey, but why do you need funds for construction services during the fiscal year 1972?

Dr. DENNARD. We have attempted, Mr. Chairman, to tighten the requirement for our capital development for two reasons. One, because we think we can accelerate the planning process, and secondly, we are operating under an understanding with the Department of State that we would evacuate the site where we are late in 1973 or early 1974. So in attempting to maintain some degree of integrity on evacuating the south side of Van Ness Street, we are trying to get down to the level of detailed drawing in 1972.

UNDERSTANDING ON SITE LOCATION

Mr. NATCHER. Dr. Dennard, what understanding do you have in re gard to the new site?

Dr. DENNARD. It is our understanding that the properties north of Van Ness Street have been designated as the site for the Washington Technical Institute.

Mr. NATCHER. Is this a firm understanding? Is there anything in writing?

Dr. DENNARD. We have a firm understanding in writing based on an interagency task force study that was confirmed with the executive branch that the properties north of Van Ness Street will be used by the institute. We recognize this has to go before the Planning Commission and before the Fine Arts Commission, on what the details and the configurations will have to be. We do not now have the deed or formal transfer of property as is possible under the 1932 transfer law.

RELOCATION OF PRESENT FACILITY

Mr. NATCHER. What arrangement has been made in regard to moving the present facility, Dr. Dennard, from this site? Is there any arrangement?

Dr. DENNARD. None to date. We have been reviewing with the Department of State and with the Department of Defense and with GSA the various phasing periods for the evacuation of the properties so that certain things can happen. This $2.38 million presupposes new construction on a spot that has no structures on it.

Mr. NATCHER. Mr. Obey.

Mr. OBEY. No questions.
Mr. NATCHER. Mr. McKay.
Mr. MCKAY. No questions.
Mr. NATCHER. Mr. Giaimo.

JUSTIFICATION OF REQUEST FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES

Mr. GIAIMO. Doctor, I am a little apprehensive now. You say that you are sort of set on your new site and yet I infer perhaps there might be some problems. Is that right? You have to get approval from several commissions?

Dr. DENNARD. Yes, sir.

Mr. GIAIMO. You feel that it would be very important in order to get this matter worked out to have the funds for construction available in this budget.

Dr. DENNARD. We are not requesting the construction funds. We are requesting only construction services.

Mr. GIAIMO. The services?

Dr. DENNARD. The services, and the master planning.

Mr. GIAIMO. And the master planning?

Dr. DENNARD. We normally elongate that over a long period of time. We have tried to set 1976 as a target date for completion and then back up, but with the State Department needing access to its land, if we can gain these 2 years of lead time now, we would have to come back in as quickly as we can complete a package, either with an amendment to 1972 or in a supplemental, to say what we would go beyond that point.

Mr. GIAIMO. But it would put you in better position in your negotiations to complete this matter if you had these funds available now?

Dr. DENNARD. Absolutely.

Mr. GIAIMO. Okay. Thank you.

Mr. NATCHER. Mr. Scherle?

Mr. SCHERLE. No questions, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. NATCHER. Mr. McEwen?

Mr. McEwEN. No questions, Mr. Chairman.

EQUIPMENT (SEE P. 710)

Mr. NATCHER. Now we take up the request for "Equipment" where you have $140,000 for 1972. Justify this item generally, and supply the details for the record.

Dr. DENNARD. These are essentially books for the library, Mr. Chairman; 6,143 new library volumes at an average cost of $14 per volume, including the processing of the books to put them on the shelves. Mr. NATCHER. All right.

Mr. Giaimo.

Mr. GIAIMO. No questions.

Mr. NATCHER. Mr. McKay.

Mr. McKAY. No questions, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. NATCHER. Mr. Scherle?

Mr. SCHERLE. No questions.
Mr. NATCHER. Mr. McEwen?

Mr. McEwEN. No questions.

Mr. NATCHER. Dr. Dennard, it has been a pleasure having you and the members of your staff appear before our committee in behalf of your budget request for fiscal year 1972.

As I said in the beginning, Dr. Dennard, as one member of this committee, I believe you are doing a good job and certainly at all times we have endeavored on this committee to assist you in every instance. Thank you very much.

Dr. DENNARD. Thank you very kindly, Mr. Chairman. We are delighted to be here.