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Mr. Rouss. Did the Congressman expect you to be answering questions this morning?

Mr. POTVIN. I believe that was his intention.

Mr. Roush. On page 4 of the Congressman's testimony, the last sentence of the paragraph which has been carried over from the preceding page, he state:

We must also, therefore, consider the impact of the legislation upon competitive balances within our own economy.

Do you see that there will be either a positive or a negative impact?

Mr. POTVIN. I believe the cardinal point we wanted to make was that the language of the bill as such does not reveal this. New standards inevitably have profound effects on competitive balances. I know in the work of the committee we have had hearings on one set of standards and are currently looking at several other standards that were having very, very great effect in some regions and on some of the smaller producers in those industries.

Now, it simply does not seem possible at this time to foresee the extent to which domestic standards might be altered as a result of increased international participation. It is safe to say that to some degree it is bound to happen, and when it does I think it is just imperative that not only the consumer but the smaller producer be given a voice and a vote in the fashioning of these new standards.

Mr. Roush. We discussed this with Dr. Hollomon yesterday, particularly expressing concern that small business might come out on the short end if big business were permitted to control the setting of standards, and it is a matter that the subcommittee is concerned with. It is a matter that we are going to explore further, and you might tell the Congressman of our concern.

On page 3, middle paragraph, the Congressman states that he finds no limitation on the duration of contracts that can be entered into with private organizations.

Do you know whether he is prepared to suggest a time limitation, together with language which might be added to the bill?

Mr. Porven. It is not clear to me whether he had a precise length of time to suggest. His thinking that is something on the order of 2 or 3 years would perhaps encourage a review from time to time of how the relationship is working out and allow the infusion of such new ideas as might be appropriate rather than crystallizing it for a longer period of time.

Mr. Roush. If there are no further questions, we would like you to express our appreciation to Congressman Dingell for his statement and his concern in this field. The Congressman is a very capable legis. lator and able spokesman for those causes in which he believes. And I believe through this statement he has made a valuable contribution to the work of the subcommittee as it addresses itself to this particular bill.

I would appreciate it also if you would assure the Congressman that the suggestions which he has made will be explored further and given full consideration.

Mr. POTVIN. Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman, for your courtesy. I will convey your message.

Mr. Roush. Thank you.

Our next witness is Mr. Francis K. McCune, vice president of the United States of America Standards Institute.

Mr. McCune, we are very happy to have you with us this morning. I see that you brought with you a supporting witness?

Mr. McCUNE. That is right.
Mr. Roush. Would you like to introduce him to the subcommittee?

Mr. McCune. This is Don Peyton, who is the new managing director of the United States of America Standards Institute.

Mr. Roush. All right.
You may proceed with your prepared statement, Mr. McCune.
Mr. McČUNE. Thank you, sir.

STATEMENT OF FRANCIS K. McCUNE, VICE PRESIDENT, UNITED

STATES OF AMERICA STANDARDS INSTITUTE; ACCOMPANIED BY DONALD PEYTON, MANAGING DIRECTOR

Mr. McCUNE. My name is Francis K. McCune. I appear today on behalf of the United States of America Standards Institute, which I serve as vice president and chairman of the finance and planning committees.

With me is Mr. Donald Peyton, managing director of the Institute. We favor enactment of H.R. 17424, introduced by Congressman Miller, and the companion bill, H.R. 17598, introduced by Congressman Roush.

By way of brief explanations, the Standards Institute is the reconstituted American Standards Association, which has been in existence since 1918 when it was founded as the American Engineering Standards Committee.

During its 48-year history the ASA did a commendable job in many areas of standardization, such as industrial, engineering and safety standards. ASA represented the United States in recognized international standardization bodies such as the International Organization for Standardization (ISO), the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC), and the Pan American Standards Commission (COPANT). This representation will be continued by the United States of America Standards Institute.

Realizing full well the necessity of improved standardization activity. both domestically and internationally, the officers and directors of ASA took steps to strengthen the organization and the procedures through which voluntary national standards are developed and American representation in international standards activities assured. As a result of this activity, the Standards Institute was formed and received its new charter under the laws of New York State in August, 1966.

The purposes of the Institute as stated in the constitution—is as follows:

(1) To act as the national coordinating institution for voluntary standardization in the United States of America through which organizations concerned with standardization may cooperate in recognizing, establishing, and improving standards of the United States of America based on a consensus of parties at interest, to the end that such standards remain dynamic; that duplication of work is minimized; that

promulgation of conflicting standards may be avoided; and that indi-
vidual enterprise and initiative is encouraged.
(2) To further the voluntary standards movement as a means of-

(a) Advancing the national economy;
(6) Benefiting public health, safety, and welfare;

(c) Facilitating domestic and international trade and communications and understanding; (3) To assure that the interests of the public, including consumers. labor, industry, and government, may have appropriate protection and representation in standardization activity.

(4) To provide the means for determining the need for new standards; to assure activity by existing organizations competent to resolve the need; and to work toward establishment of suitable groups for this purpose where such do not already exist, but not itself to formulate standards.

(5) To promote knowledge and voluntary use of approved standards.

(6) To stimulate the work of existing committees and organizations competent to formulate standards according to suitable criteria for recognition as standards of the United States of America.

(7) To cooperate with departments and agencies of Federal, State, and local governments in achieving (a) optimum compatibility between government codes and standards and the voluntary standards of industry and commerce and (b) maximum common usage of standards of the United States of America.

(8) To be the representative of the United States of America to international standardization organizations concerned with civilian safety, trade, and commerce, except where otherwise provided by treaty.

(9) To serve as a clearinghouse for information on standards and standardization work in the United States of America and of foreign countries.

These are purposes which, I think, give some sense of what the organization is.

With your permission, Mr. Chairman, I would like to submit a copy of the entire constitution and bylaws of the Institute for the record, in order that the members of the subcommittee may know what the Institute is, and how it will serve the Nation in standardization activities.

Mr. Roush. We would like to receive that for the record. Can you leave a copy with us?

Mr. McCUNE. Yes, sir.

Mr. Roush. Unless there is objection, we will include it in the record at this point.

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