Mr. PATTERSON. Of course, this is long-time business. Take the Air Corps item, for example, some of this money they want will not be paid out for a year and a half. Mr. POWERS. Then, should not your contract authorization be higher and your direct cash appropriation lower? Mr. PATTERSON. Well, I do not think so. Major HEISS. If I may just add a word: In this particular appropriation we are asking for a relatively small amount of cash, amounting to $185,000,000 out of $761,000,000. Mr. POWERS. I am talking about the whole appropriation bill; there is an enormous amount of cash. Will you give us a breakdown between the cash and contractual authority? There is about a billion and seven in the one, and about two billions and one for contract authorization. Colonel BROWN. The relation between the cash and contract authorization that will be needed under the program has received very careful consideration. The Bureau of the Budget took the attitude, when processing the estimates, insofar as concerns cash that would be needed during fiscal year 1942, that it would be better for us to request cash now rather than request contract authorization at this time, and come back in the regular bill for 1942 a few weeks from now for cash to liquidate contract authorizations requested at this time. So this bill does carry some cash which will not be required until the fiscal year 1942 as well as cash required for the balance of fiscal year 1941. Mr. POWERS. I am just wondering whether the cash that is asked for in this bill can be used, and whether industry can swallow this amount of cash in the production of materials that you want. Colonel BROWN. The respective services so stated and have convinced the Bureau of the Budget of the soundness of their statement. Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. What is the advantage of coming in now for 1942 cash rather than in the regular bill? Colonel BROWN. Because we will be defending the 1942 bill in a few weeks. If we request contract authorizations now which must be liquidated in 1942 we must request the cash in a few weeks to liquidate such contract authorizations, it was the thought of the Bureau of the Budget that we might just as well come in for the cash at this time. Mr. POWERS. In other words, whether you set it up in this bill for cash or for contract authority eventually you were going to have to pay the money out? Colonel BROWN. That is correct. Mr. POWERS. So there would be little difference. Mr. SNYDER. How much economy is it to have this contract authorization; is there any economy effected? General MOORE. It is a question of keeping production going. The Under Secretary of War's Office is asking for authority to contract now so as to keep our production going without interruption. Mr. SNYDER. I understand you were giving a lot of contracts to people to save money by doing it this way rather than waiting for next year. General MoORE. No. Mr. PATTERSON. The important thing is to keep production going. General MOORE. The important thing is to keep production going at capacity, without interruption. Mr. SNYDER. Just one more question: The largest amount of this money will be spent about when; the largest amount of this authorization will be turned over about when? Mr. PATTERSON. Will be paid out? Mr. SNYDER. Yes. Mr. PATTERSON. Two years hence. ADEQUACY OF FACILITIES PROPOSED UNDER PROGRAM TO MEET DEFENSE REQUIREMENTS Mr. TABER. Mr. Secretary, have you gone over this big plan carefully enough to see that we are not supplying more facilities than are going to be required to get out these airplanes, to meet the powder requirements that we have got to have? I rather envision a drop off in certain of these requirements for some of the minor classes of planes; that we ought to be able to trim off on some of these things as we go along, and I should think that we ought to be pretty well toward the saturation point in supplying factory space for industry in this connection. Mr. PATTERSON. There is a great deal to what you say, Mr. Taber. I think so far as the production of training planes, some small planes, we are in pretty fair shape. On the other hand, the program is not deemed well balanced for the larger type of planes, the bombers. And we cannot really discuss this intelligently by just calling it an airplane. It is just something like calling an elephant and a rabbit animals. They are. But, the smaller airplane, the trainer plane, is the rabbit; and the heavy bomber, the elephant. It is believed by the War Department that the facilities for the production of even the medium bomber may not yet be sufficient, although we have—— Mr. TABER (interposing). Well, some other facilities are being made available for that; they can be adjusted to a large extent, can they not? Mr. PATTERSON. No; they cannot. I have been around to aircraft plants, and you will be quite struck when you go in by the difference, the vast difference, in them. For instance, if you go to the Vultee plant or the main builders of training planes; they can turn_those things out rapidly, six a day, or something like that. And they do not need vast space, that is, in square feet, that the factories producing large planes need, like the Boeing plant or the Consolidated plant. Mr. TABER. Of course, that is true of a great number of them. On the other hand, they can be converted where you have a surplusage, can they not, or is the procedure entirely different? Mr. PATTERSON. Entirely different. We need to continue building the training planes; there is no waste because in doing so we anticipate that we will need Mr. STARNES (interposing). In other words, they have got to learn to fly the small plane before they can fly the bombers. Mr. PATTERSON. We need them both. Mr. LUDLOW. I want to ask you this question, General: Suppose peace should come into the world, what shape would we be in, so far as the economic program is concerned? Mr. WOODRUM. Suppose you supply a statement on that for the record, if you wish. THURSDAY, MARCH 6, 1941. ADJUTANT GENERAL'S DEPARTMENT STATEMENT OF MAJ. J. W. RAMSEY, ADJUTANT GENERAL'S DEPARTMENT WELFARE OF ENLISTED MEN Mr. WOODRUM. We have this item under the Adjutant General's Department: Welfare of enlisted men: Welfare of enlisted men, $902,000, to remain available until June 30, 1942. Will you tell us about that, major? Major RAMSEY. The total amount of this estimate is $902,000. It is to provide for the employment of personnel and the purchase of equipment for facilities that have been authorized since the passage of the Third Supplemental National Defense Appropriation Act. Summary of projects (1) Number and purpose of project 1. Pay of civilian employees.. 2. Purchase of books, magazines, etc., and transportation of books and library and recreational equipment.. 3. Purchase of recreational equipment.. Total.. (2) Estimated obligations, 1941 52, 080 304, 295 545, 625 902,000 PAY OF HOSTESSES AND LIBRARIANS AT SERVICE CLUBS Under project 1 there is provided the pay of employees at 42 additional service clubs for the months of May and June of this fiscal year. It provides for 42 principal hostesses and 84 hostesses, and 42 principal library assistants. Mr. WOODRUM. Will you put a statement in the record showing the places where they will be located? Major RAMSEY. Yes, sir. Mr. WOODRUM. Have you a list of the clubs? Major RAMSEY. Yes, sir. Mr. WOODRUM. Will you put that in the record? Major RAMSEY. Yes, sir. (The statement above referred to is as follows:) LOCATION OF SERVICE CLUBS (42) INCLUDED IN FOURTH SUPPLEMENTAL NATIONAL DEFENSE APPROPRIATION ACT, FEBRUARY 1941 For replacement centers (18), additional camps of over 5,000 (8), and Air Corps stations (2) originally included in fiscal year 1942 estimates: Second Corps Area: Fort Monmouth, N. J. (replacement center). Third Corps Area: Aberdeen Proving Ground, Md. (replacement center). Fort Belvoir, Va. (replacement center). Fort Eustis, Va. (replacement center). Camp Lee, Va. (replacement center). Fourth Corps Area: Camp Beauregard Area, La. (nondivisional). Fort Bragg, N. C. (replacement center). Fort Croft, Spartanburg, S. C. (replacement center). MacDill Field, Fla. Macon, Ga. (replacement center). Camp Stewart, Savannah, Ga.—AA firing center. Fifth Corps Area: Fort Knox, Ky. (replacement center). Sixth Corps Area: Camp Grant, Ill. (replacement center). Seventh Corps Area: Fort Leonard Wood, Rolla, Mo. (replacement center). Eighth Corps Area: Fort Bliss, Tex.-A. A. firing center and nondivisional. Camp Hulen, Tex. Lowry Field, Denver, Colo. Fort Sill, Okla. (replacement center). Camp Wolters, Tex. (replacement center). Ninth Corps Area: Fort Francis E. Warren, Wyo. (replacement center). March Field, Calif.-A. A. firing center). Nacimiento Ranch, Calif. (replacement center). Torrey Pines, Calif., C. A. C. (replacement center). Hawaiian Department (Hawaiian divisional and nondivisional troops). Puerto Rican Department-Bornquen Field. For additional camps of over 5,000 (14) included in supplemental estimates, fiscal year 1941: Second Corps Area: Fort Dix, N. J. (nondivisional). Fort Hancock, N. J. (including H. D. of Sandy Hook). Pine Camp, N. Y. (nondivisional). Third Corps Area: Fort Belvoir, Va. Fort Story, Va. Fourth Corps Area: Camp Blanding, Fla. (nondivisional). Camp Shelby, Miss. (nondivisional). Sixth Corps Area: Chanute Field, Ill. Fort Sheridan, Ill. Eighth Corps Area: Fort Huachuca, Ariz. Ninth Corps Area: Fort Lewis, Wash. (nondivisional). 300871-41--4 SERVICE CLUBS For divisional camps (33) for which funds were appropriated in Third Supplemental National Defense Act, 1941: First Corps Area: Fort Devens, Mass. Camp Edwards, Mass.. Second Corps Area: Fort Dix, N. J___. Pine Camp, N. Y. Third Corps Area: Indiantown Gap, Pa.. Fort George G. Meade, Md. Fourth Corps Area: Camp Beauregard Area, La. Camp Shelby, Miss. (2). Fifth Corps Area: Fort Knox, Ky. Sixth Corps Area: Camp Custer, Mich. Seventh Cerns Area: Fort Riley, Kans Camp Robinson, Ark. Fort Leonard Wood, Rolla, Mo Eighth Corps Area: Fort Bliss, Tex-- Fort Sam Houston, Tex Camp Bowie, Tex. Abilene, Tex-. Ninth Corps Area: Fort Lewis, Wash. (2). Fort Ord, Calif_____ Camp San Luis Obispo, Calif. Division 1st 26th 44th 4th Armored 28th 3rd Armored 9th 8th-30th 32nd 27th 33rd 37th-38th 1st Armored 2nd Cavalry 6th 1st Cavalry 2nd 45th 3rd-41st 7th 40th NUMBER OF APPLICANTS FOR HOSTESS POSITIONS Mr. WOODRUM. How many hostesses have been selected? Major RAMSEY. The exact number now selected may not be determined until reports have been obtained from the field in that the matter of selection has been decentralized to the various military corps areas. Selections of personnel depend on date facility if available. Since construction of all service clubs has not been completed, reports of selection are accordingly incomplete. One principal hostess and two hostesses are authorized for each service club. Mr. LUDLOW. How many applications did you have? Major RAMSEY. We had over 15,000 applications in the War Department for the few positions available. Mr. COLLINS. I had more than that in letters I received. Major RAMSEY. That does not include applications received at corps area and departmental headquarters. Mr. LUDLOW. How many would you say were received there? Major RAMSEY. I would guess that there were 50 percent more; in other words, approximately 22,000. Mr. SNYDER. How many will you finally select? Major RAMEY. In total? Mr. SNYDER. Yes; how many will be employed? Major RAMSEY. One hundred and fifty junior hostesses and 75 principal hostesses would be authorized for this fiscal year. |