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OFFICE OF THE CHAPLAIN

Mr. HENSHAW. The next is the Office of the Chaplain.

Mr. SHIPLEY. Are we up with the Senate?

Mr. HENSHAW. I know we are shooting for it

Mr. SHIPLEY. If it is not, let us know. I believe we changed that in conference. Did we Earl?

Mr. SILSBY. Yes, it was through the House Administration Committee.

We did it first, then House Administration authorized it.

The salary for Chaplain of the Senate, $23,628; for the House, $23,645. I don't know if that's right. Somehow we got ahead of the Senate. I don't know if the figure is correct.

Mr. SHIPLEY. Somehow it is fair.

Mr. COUGHLIN. More of us to pray for.

Mr. SHIPLEY. I know we changed that. I saw what you had in the resolution you submitted.

Mr. COLLEY. What has been done here will negate any need for special resolutions or laws in the future. When pay rates go up for House employees, the Postmaster and Chaplain's salaries are included, so they would rise automatically.

Mr. HENSHAW. For the Office of the Chaplain, $23,700. Mr. Chairman, the provisions of H. Res. 661 provided that the salary of the Chaplain shall be equal to the rate in effect from time to time for H.S. Level 8, step 4, of the House Employees Schedule, currently $23,645.

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OFFICE OF THE PARLIAMENTARIAN

Mr. HENSHAW. For the Office of the Parliamentarian, including the Parliamentarian, and $2,000 for preparing the Digest of the Rules, $250,000.

Mr. SHIPLEY. Is he a full-fledged employee now?

Mr. HENSHAW. Yes, it was taken care of.

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Mr. HENSHAW. For the Compiling of Precedents of the House of Representatives, $295,000. The Compilation of Precedents of the House is accomplished pursuant to the acts of July 27, 1965 (Public Law 89-90, 79 Stat. 265, 270) and October 26, 1970 (Public Law 91-510, 84 Stat. 1140, 1186). We understand that additional volumes of the precedents will be completed and distributed to the House Members during the 95th Congress.

I think Mr. Colley has more information as to the timing.

Mr. COLLEY. It will be in 10 volumes, 40 chapters, 34 remain to be published. It is hoped by October of 1979, seven volumes will have been published. At the present time, Volume 2 is in the final stage of preparation, Volume 3 is expected to be finished by October 1978.

Mr. HENSHAW. I think they hope to finish it up by October of 1979.

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Mr. HENSHAW. Mr. Chairman, the next two items we will take up are the Official Reporters of Debates and the Official Reporters to Committees. House Resolution 959, passed by the House on January 23, 1978, vested to the Clerk of the House, subject to the direction and control of the Speaker, the Official Reporters of the House, including stenographers, the appointment, termination and manner of execution of their duties.

Mr. Chairman, inasmuch as House Resolution 959 passed after the formulation of budget estimates and transmission to OMB, the subcommittee print lists the reporters' budget requests in separate

categories. At this time, we recommend that the monies requested for fiscal year 1979 for the Official Reporters of Debates, $700,000, and Official Reporters to Committees, $810,000, be deleted from the two headings and added to the appropriation, "Office of the Clerk." For fiscal year 1978, we request that appropriate language be initiated in the mark-up_session to allow the unused balances, of the Official Reporters of Debates and Official Reporters to Committees to be transferred to the Office of the Clerk.

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TWO PRINTING CLERKS FOR CAUCUS ROOMS

Mr. HENSHAW. For two printing clerks, one for the Majority Caucus Room and one for the Minority Caucus Room, to be appointed by the Majority and Minority Leaders, respectively, $33,500, as compared to $31,300 for 1978. The difference is due to the cost-of-living increase.

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Mr. SHIPLEY. We have caught a little flack on this for the last two years. Again, this is left to the discretion of the Majority and Minority Leaders as to whether or not they want to pay, will pay or do pay, is that right?

Mr. HENSHAW. Yes, sir, that is correct.

Mr. SHIPLEY. They don't have to pay it.

We are making available here $33,500, which is an increase. What is the increase over $31,300? A cost-of-living increase?

Mr. HENSHAW. Yes.

Mr. SHIPLEY. You remember the static we had on the floor? Mr. COLLEY. That is the maximum salary that could be paid. It could be less than that.

Mr. SHIPLEY. But it is up to the Majority and Minority Leader to make the appointment and pay.

Mr. HENSHAW. I am not sure about the pay figure. I know we read an awful lot of it in the paper.

Mr. SHIPLEY. Earl, do you have anything on that?

Tell me exactly what happened with regard to both of these printing clerks. What facilities do they have, how many employees do they have, who pays the employees, where do they get their paper and equipment, who pays for it? I want a complete rundown on it. Can you give it to us now?

Mr. HENSHAW. I don't know if I can give you all that information for you right now. We can find it for you, we can find out exactly what we have.

Mr. COLLEY. Starting with the printing clerks, themselves, they are appointed by the Majority and Minority Leader just as you would appoint a staff member. The salary level has built up from the very first salary level which was $1,200.

Mr. SHIPLEY. When was that?

Mr. COLLEY. I don't know the date, we can refine this for the record. But the printing clerks are the only employees we pay. They, own the equipment in their shops, and they hire and pay their own employees.

Mr. SHIPLEY. They own the equipment and pay their employ

ees

Mr. COLLEY. From the gross income. They buy their paper from our stationery store and maybe other places. There has been a complete study by the GAO.

Mr. SHIPLEY. Is it available?

Mr. SILSBY. I don't think the most recent one is available.

Mr. SHIPLEY. Where do they get their printing from? Who do they print for?

Mr. SILSBY. Mostly from members. Whether they do much outside work, I don't know.

Mr. SHIPLEY. Is that where I used to get my newsletter printed? Is this by House resolution? What's the history?

Mr. COLLEY. The authority goes back considerably beyond that. Mr. SHIPLEY. Somewhere along the line there had to be a resolution.

Mr. COLLEY. Oh, yes. We have the authorities.

Page 37, authorization contained in H. Res. 295 of the 78th Congress.

Mr. SHIPLEY. Earl tells me that Mr. Ketchum introduced the amendment; Mr. Coughlin was going to and it was defeated because of the fact that the Obey Commission was looking into it.

We won't take any more time on it now, but I think it is something we will have to look at pretty closely. Because I can't and will not go out and defend them myself.

Mr. COLLEY. We will give you all the background on it.
Mr. SHIPLEY. All right, if you will.

[The following was provided for the record:]

As I mentioned earlier, the printing clerks own their own equipment, pay their own employees and so forth. A recent General Accounting Office report indicates that their financial computations do not include "the cost of certain benefits and services-such as space, utilities, ordinary building repairs, and maintenance,” which are furnished without charge.

In addition to salaries provided by the House, both printing clerks run their offices as private businesses.

Go ahead, Mr. Henshaw.

TECHNICAL ASSISTANT TO THE ATTENDING PHYSICIAN

Mr. HENSHAW. For a technical assistant in the Office of the Attending Physician to be appointed by the Attending Physician, subject to the approval of the Speaker, $30,700. This is an increase of $2,000 over the amount appropriated for fiscal year 1978. This increase is due to the cost-of-living increase granted in October 1977.

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Mr. SHIPLEY. Is that person on board?

Mr. HENSHAW. This is on-going. He has been employed for sometime.

HOUSE DEMOCRATIC STEERING COMMITTEE

For salaries and expenses of the House Democratic Steering Committee, $408,900. This is an increase of $26,900 over the

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