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CONTENTS

The same table of contents appears in both parts 1 and 2

Part 1: Pages 1-560

Includes testimony from Government and other witnesses on the various housing bills for April 19, 20, 21, 22, 25, and 26

Part 2: Pages 561-1246

Includes testimony from witnesses on bills relating to Alaska, Historic Preservation, and Mass Transportation for April 27, 28, and 29; also pending bills, agency reports, supplementary statements, letters, and data

BILLS AND AGENCY REPORTS

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Report of Agriculture Department....

List of bills pending before the Housing Subcommittee_-
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S. 1915.

Report of Housing and Urban Development Department....

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Report of Housing and Urban Development Department.

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Report of Housing and Urban Development Department.

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Section-by-section analysis...

Report of Health, Education, and Welfare Department...

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Report of Housing and Urban Development Department..

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Report of Housing and Urban Development Department..

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WITNESSES

TUESDAY, APRIL 19

Robert C. Weaver, Secretary, Department of Housing and Urban De-
velopment; accompanied by Robert C. Wood, Under Secretary; Charles
M. Haar, Assistant Secretary for Metropolitan Development; Philip
N. Brownstein, Assistant Secretary for Mortgage Credit and Com-
missioner, Federal Housing Administration; J. Stanley Baughman,
President, Federal National Mortgage Association; Melvin Frasier,
Acting Commissioner, Community Facilities Administration; Marie
McGuire, Commissioner, Public Housing Administration; Howard
Wharton, Acting Commissioner, Urban Renewal Administration; and
Ashley Foard, Acting General Counsel. __

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 20

John J. Reed, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, (Family Housing)___
A. Willis Robertson, U.S. Senator from the State of Virginia, and chairman,
Senate Committee on Banking and Currency-
Benton O. Dillard, mayor, city of Roanoke, Va.; accompanied by Vincent
Wheeler, vice mayor; Julian F. Hirst, city manager; and Russell R.
Henley, executive director of Roanoke Redevelopment & Housing
Authority

Wilbur J. Cohen, Under Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare;
accompanied by Dr. Philip Lee, Assistant Secretary for Health and
Scientific Affairs; Dr. Harald Graning, Public Health Service; and
Philip N. Brownstein, Assistant Secretary for Mortgage Credit, and
Commissioner, Federal Housing Administration, Department of
Housing and Urban Development.

Troy Norris, chairman, Corinth (Miss.) Urban Renewal Commission;
accompanied by O. R. Smith, Jr., attorney; and James Billingsley,
Director of Neighborhood Youth Corps, Corinth, Miss..

THURSDAY, APRIL 21

Neal S. Blaisdell, president of the U.S. Conference of Mayors, accom-
panied by John J. Gunther, executive director, and Hugh Mields, Jr.,
associate director___

Walter F. Mondale, U.S. Senator from the State of Minnesota__
C. David Loeks, president, American Institute of Planners; accompanied
by Robert L. Williams, executive director, and David K. Hartley, direc-
tor, Institute Development.

James H. J. Tate, mayor of Philadelphia, Pa., on behalf of the National
League of Cities; accompanied by John O'Shea, development coordi-
nator, Philadelphia__.

William J. Levitt, president, Levitt & Sons, Inc.-

David W. Mullins, president, University of Arkansas; accompanied by
Russell Thackery, executive director of the National Association of
State Universities & Land-Grant Colleges..

John H. Haas, executive vice president, General Improvement Contractors
Association.

FRIDAY, APRIL 22

Philip A. Hart, U.S. Senator, State of Michigan_-
Larry Blackmon, president, National Association of Home Builders;
accompanied by Leon N. Weiner, first vice president; Nathaniel H.
Rogg, executive vice president; Herbert S. Colton, general counsel; and
John A. Stastny, member, executive committee..

Eugene H. Nickerson, county executive, Nassau County, N.Y., on behalf of
National Association of Counties; accompanied by C. D. Ward, general

counsel

Boris Shishkin, secretary, Housing Committee, AFL-CIO, accompanied
by Alexander Bookstaver, director of investments..
Beverly Diamond, National Council on the Aging; accompanied by Garson
Meyer and Nick J. Mileti....

Robert W. Kean, Jr., first vice president, National Water Company
Conference, accompanied by James M. Milligan, administrative direc-
tor, and Alvin Friedman, counsel...

Manuel Gottlieb, professor of economics, University of Wisconsin..

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MONDAY, APRIL 25

Thruston B. Morton, U.S. Senator from the State of Kentucky.
John Sherman Cooper, U.S. Senator from the State of Kentucky.
Kenneth A. Schmied, mayor, city of Louisville, Ky.; accompanied by
Jack D. Leeth, executive director, Louisville Urban Renewal Agency;
and William T. Warner, special coordinator for Federal loan and grant
programs.

Nathaniel S. Keith, president, National Housing Conference..
Dwight D. Townsend, director, Washington Office, the Cooperative League
of USA..

E. T. Butler, vice president, Investors Syndicate Credit Corp., Minne-
apolis, Minn., on behalf of National Home Improvement Council
Lenders Committee___

Paul Davidoff, director, Urban Research Center and professor of urban
planning, chairman, Graduate Urban Planning Program, Hunter Col-
lege, New York, N.Y,, on behalf of Americans for Democratic Action;
accompanied by David Cohen, legislative representative...
Alfred D. Stalford, chairman, California Commission of Housing and
Community Development, and Walter J. Monasch, director, California
Department of Housing and Community Development_
Richard J. Webbon, Coordinator of Urban Affairs, city of Virginia Beach,
Va......

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TUESDAY, APRIL 26

Jacob J. Javits, U.S. Senator from the State of New York...
Charles M. Nes, Jr., first vice president, American Institute of Architects;
accompanied by William H. Sheick, executive director, and Philip A.
Hutchinson, Jr., director of governmental affairs-----
Ewart W. Goodwin, president, Mortgage Bankers Association of America;
accompanied by Samuel E. Neel, executive vice president and general
counsel, and Graham T. Northup, director of governmental relations..
Alan L. Emlen, chairman, realtors' Washington committee, National
Association of Real Estate Boards; accompanied by Jack Williamson,
counsel and Charles T. Stewart, director of public affairs....
Frederic A. Fay, president, National Association of Housing & Redevelop-
ment Officials; accompanied by John Lange, executive director...
Walter F. Mondale, U.S. Senator from the State of Minnesota__
Edwin Christianson, vice president, National Farmers Union; accom-
panied by Blue Carstenson, assistant legislative director___
James J. Flynn, Jr., mayor of Perth Amboy, N.J.; accompanied by Stephen
P. Minalko, executive director, housing and redevelopment---

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 27

E. L. Bartlett, U.S. Senator from the State of Alaska: accompanied by
Stewart L. Udall, Secretary, Department of Interior; William Byler,
executive director, Association on American Indian Affairs, and Arthur
Lazarus, general counsel; Eben Hopson, State Senator, Alaska State
Legislature, and vice chairman, Alaska Native Housing Committee;
Emil Notti, chairman, Alaska Native Housing Committee; Charles
Edwardsen, vice president, Arctic Slope Native Association; Dr. Martha
Wilson, service unit director, Public Health Service of Alsaka; and
Charles Blomfield, assistant executive director, Alaska State Housing
Authority.

Edward M. Kennedy, U.S. Senator from the State of Massachusetts--
Daniel K. Inouye, U.S. Senator from the State of Hawaii..

Albert Rains, former U.S. Congressman from the State of Alabama.
Phillip Hoff, Governor of the State of Vermont....

Gordon Gray, Chairman, National Trust for Historic Preservation... Harlan S. Geidermann and Warren G. Haight representing Oceanic Properties and GELCO Corp...

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THURSDAY, APRIL 28

John V. Lindsay, mayor of New York City; accompanied by Arthur
Palmer, chairman of the Mayor's Council on Transportation in New
York City...

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Jonathan B. Bingham, U.S. Congressman from the 23d District of New
York..

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Warren G. Magnuson, U.S. Senator from the State of Washington; ac-
companied by J. D. Braman, mayor of Seattle, Wash..
Jacob K. Javits, U.S. Senator from the State of New York_
Joseph D. Tydings, U.S. Senator from the State of Maryland.
Nils A. Lennartson, president, Railway Progress Institute---
Jack Conway, executive director, Industrial Union Department, AFL-CIO;
accompanied by Jack Beidler, legislative director, and Marvin Caplan,
legislative representative- - -

Frank D. O'Connor, president, New York City Council

Glenn E. Bennett, Atlanta Region Metropolitan Planning Commission; accompanied by Jack Etheridge, general counsel, Rapid Transit Authority.

George L. De Ment, president, Institute for Rapid Transit, Chicago, Ill

FRIDAY, APRIL 29

Stuart T. Saunders, chairman of the board, the Pennsylvania Railroad
Co.; accompanied by J. D. Morris, assistant vice president, special

services.

John J. Gilhooley, member, New York City Transit Authority; accom-
panied by Stuart Rothman, Washington counsel..
Joseph D. Tydings, U.S. Senator from the State of Maryland; accompanied
by William W. Seifert, dean School of Engineering, Massachusetts Insti-
tute of Technology; B. R. Stokes, general manager, San Francisco Bay
Area Rapid Transit District; and Philip Heller Sachs, chairman, Transit
Authority of Maryland___

A. Russell Parkhouse, president of Montgomery County Commissioners,
Montgomery County, Pa., on behalf of the National Association of
Counties_

J. Richard Tomlinson, director of passenger services, Reading Co.---
John L. Taylor, city manager, Fresno, Calif

Gene R. Schaefer, director, Mass Transit Operations, Westinghouse Air
Brake Co. (WABCO), Pittsburgh, Pa.

Thomas G. Higgins, chairman, Mayor's Advisory Committee on Transpor-
tation in Ridgewood, N.J.; accompanied by Charles F. Bruder, vice
president, Singer Co.; and Mayor George W. Clarke, Ridgewood, N.J.-
Carmack Cochran, representing American Transit Association; accom-
panied by John C. Kohl, executive vice president..

Walter J. Bierwagen, International Vice President, Amalgamated Transit
Union, AFL-CIO__

W. E. Skutt, assistant grand chief engineer, Brotherhood of Locomotive
Engineers---

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ALPHABETICAL LIST OF WITNESSES

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Bartlett, E. L., U.S. Senator from the State of Alaska..
Bennett, Glenn E., Atlanta Region Metropolitan Planning Commission;
accompanied by Jack Etheridge, general counsel, Rapid Transit
Authority

Bierwagen, Walter J., international vice president, Amalgamated Transit
Union, AFL-CIO..

Bingham, Jonathan B., U.S. Congressman from the 23d District of New
York..

Blackmon, Larry, president, National Association of Home Builders;
accompanied by Leon N. Weiner, first vice president; Nathaniel H.
Rogg, executive vice president; Herbert S. Colton, general counsel;
and John A. Stastny, member, executive committee_-
Blaisdell, Neal S., president of the U.S. Conference of Mayors, accom-
panied by John J. Gunther, executive director and Hugh Mields, Jr.,
associate director__.

Blomfield, Charles, assistant executive director, Alaska State Housing
Authority.

Brownstein, Philip N., Assistant Secretary for Mortgage Credit, and
Commissioner, Federal Housing Administration, Department of Housing
and Urban Development..

Braman, J. D., mayor of Seattle, Wash..

Butler, E. T., vice president, Investors Syndicate Credit Corp., Minneapolis, Minn., on behalf of National Home Improvement Council Lenders Committee..

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