COMMUNIST YOUTH PROGRAM

TUESDAY, MAY 18, 1965

U.S. SENATE,

SUBCOMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE THE
ADMINISTRATION OF THE INTERNAL SECURITY
ACT AND OTHER INTERNAL SECURITY LAWS,
OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY,

Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 1:30 p.m., in room 2228, New Senate Office Building, Senator Thomas J. Dodd, presiding. Present: Senator Dodd.

Also present: A. Warren Littman, associate counsel; Frank W. Schroeder, chief investigator; and Robert C. McManus, investigations analyst.

Senator DODD. The committee will come to order.

This is an executive session and a continuation of the public hearing held today. The witnesses are: Charles E. Moore, who testified in open session, and was sworn yesterday. The other witness is Robert Siegrist, who was also sworn this morning.

All right, counsel, you may proceed.

Mr. LITTMAN. The first witness, sir, in executive session is Mr. Charles E. Moore.

Mr. Moore, as the Senator will recall, testified yesterday in open session, and having already been sworn, if there is no objection, I would like to now proceed in closed session with him.

Mr. Moore, you will recall the injunction of the chairman at the session yesterday because it was open, and the statement by the chief counsel, that we would refrain from using names and personalities for this present purpose.

I now direct your attention to two photographs which, as I understand it, are the product or some of the products, some of the many products, of your investigation in the field, and I refer, first, to the picture which you have already shown the staff, Mr. Moore, of a professor, and before presenting it to the subcommittee, I would ask that you identify it far more closely than I have.

TESTIMONY OF CHARLES E. MOORE

Mr. MOORE. This is a picture, Mr. Littman, of a University of California professor identified by the San Francisco Examiner Newspaper as Dr. Matt Cannon.

This photograph was taken by the San Francisco Examiner staff on December 3, 1964, at the site of the demonstrations which were then rocking the University of California.

Mr. LITTMAN. May I see it? Thank you. This photograph, as the caption indicates, Mr. Witness, depicts the party, Dr. Matt Cannon, with a "free speech" button and, as the caption says, adorning his corduroy jacket.

The caption further states, as you have indicated, that it was photographed at the site of the FSM revolt. What does that mean, FSM revolt?

Mr. MOORE. Free Speech Movement.

Mr. LITTMAN. As you have already indicated.

Mr. MOORE. Yes.

Mr. LITTMAN. Was there any particular significance to this picture other than that it is, perhaps, illustrative of your report, and that it did appear in the April 1965 issue of The Police Chief?

Mr. MOORE. None other than that we were trying to show our members the character and background of the people with whom they would be dealing possibly in connection with other student demonstrations and riots.

Mr. LITTMAN. I see.

Mr. Chairman, may I submit this for the record?

Senator DODD. It will be received.

(The photograph referred to follows:)

A University of California professor, Dr. Matt Cannon, is photographed at the site of the FSM revolt. A "free speech" button adorns his corduroy jacket.