within 65 miles for housing groups of employees or individual families. Suitable sites on which to establish a 100-man camp are available inside, or adjacent to the monument. Utilities as well as buildings would have to be provided for the camp, but once established, such a camp would have long-range value within the master developmental plan for the monument.

Following establishment of a camp, the three representative projects which follow could be undertaken without further extensive preparation:

1. Flood and erosion control:

(a) Utilize onsite materials to construct check dams, revetments, and similar minor drainage structures in lateral canyons of the monument to control seasonal floods and thereby alleviate hazards of floodwater erosion at hundreds of archeological ruins as well as modern park developments.

(b) Provide for the reestablishment of the vegetative ground cover through accelerated planting of native trees, shrubs, and grasses in the washes and on the canyon floor.

2. Construct or improve miscellaneous public use facilities to provide maximum conservation of natural features and reduce the impact of increasing visitor use upon the park. Included are such proposed objectives as campground improvement, planting to provide shade as well as erosion control, improvements and minor additions to interpretive facilities, trails, and similar physical improvements.

I regret the delay in replying to your letter of June 15. I was absent when it reached Chaco Canyon on June 21 and did not receive it until my return on June 24. I hope that the information desired is being provided in time to meet your requirements and that you will let us know if more information is needed. Sincerely yours, MERRITT S. JOHNSTON, Superintendent.

CITY OF ROSWELL, N. MEX., June 23, 1964.

Hon. GAYLORD NELSON,
U.S. Senator,

Washington, D.C.

DEAR SENATOR NELSON: I am in receipt of your letter of June 15, 1964, and hope the following information might be of value to you.

During the past 2 years, the city of Roswell has acquired approximately 700 acres of public domain from the Federal Government to be developed for recreational purposes. It is our intention, when funds are available, to reforest these areas and develop areas of activity such as horseback riding, skeet ranges, archery ranges, large picnic areas, and other recreational activities as the public demands. The preparation of these sites will require considerable manhours to clear the undergrowth and reforest the areas. I would estimate that approximately 15 to 20 man-years of work would be utilized in these areas without extensive preparation at the present.

Other work such as roadside improvement along the highways entering the city would be contemplated should labor be available.

If labor should become available, we definitely could utilize several men on a year round basis in the preparation of roadways, construction of recreational facilities such as picnic areas, etc.

I hope the above information will be of value to you in the drafting of proposed legislation to use unemployed workers on municipal projects.

Very truly yours,

ARAL B. GWINN, Park Superintendent.

CHAMBER OF COMMERCE,

Hon. GAYLORD NELSON,
U.S. Senate,

Washington, D.C.

GRANTS AND WESTERN VALENCIA COUNTY,
Grants, N. Mex., June 25, 1964.

DEAR SENATOR NELSON: Thank you very much for your letter of June 15, 1964, advising me that you are drafting legislation and pertinent information for conservation projects, and asking for suggestions.

I am most happy to cooperate by submitting the following facts on West Valencia County. These facts are based on my experience as a past president

of the Grants Chamber of Commerce, director of recreation for Anaconda Co. and as a member of the New Mexico State Board of Recreation.

Grants is located in west Valencia County in the State of New Mexico. Our county consists of 5,638 square miles and is sixth largest in the State in area. In west Valencia County we have some 135 townships, most of which is Federal or State-owned land. The population numbers 25,000. We have a three-way culture-Spanish-Americans, Indians, and Anglos.

If funds were available we could well use a substantial number of workers for many needed projects. The area, for the most part is undeveloped and unimproved, from the standpoint of natural resources, scenic attractions, and recreational facilities.

With reference to timber, there would be an estimated 35 man-years required for the work that is ready and pinpointed now, fire control, planting, seeding, etc.

Of great importance is the need for flood control and water conservation on Mount Taylor and in the Zuni Mountains, north and south of Grants, in the Cibola National Forest. This was considered by local soil and water conservation districts. It was the opinion that these projects were needed and necessary to protect farmlands, as well as urban and city areas. Local soil and water conservation districts are working on applications for small watersheds, which would bring about employment during construction and supply some of the needs for recreation development, together with development of natural resources. A feasibility survey has been completed on this project, and we feel it could be executed without extensive preparation.

However, there is no indication nor assurance that these projects will materialize. A conservative estimate is that 250 man-years would be required for this type project.

On parks, 100 man-years would be our estimate, which could be used for overnight camps, with modern facilities and conveniences, and two roadside parks. In our own town of Grants, we have a great demand from the tourists, on busy Highway 66, having 10,000 cars in a 24-hour traffic count, for use of a city park. Due to the lack of funds on the part of the city, we have been unable to develop such a park, other than for the use of the little league baseball players.

In order to serve our own people, together with the ever-increasing number of tourists, it would be a wonderful asset for this area to develop Mount Taylor with good camping facilities and a ski area. The mountain rises to a height of 11,334 feet. We have recommended development of a ski area to the Forest Service.

Only a short distance from us is one of the most outstanding historic attractions in the Southwest, Acoma, the Sky City, the oldest continually inhabitated village in the United States. This attraction, located on the Acoma Indian Reservation, needs preservation, modern sanitation, health facilities, and water. The Acoma Indians, numbering better than 2,000, are unemployed and could well use the money, which could be derived from the Sky City and from the sale of their beautiful pottery. A survey of their needs was conducted several years ago, but no program has been developed.

Due to the cutback in uranium, which contributes more than 60 percent to our economy, we have a great number of unemployed workers in this area.

Should you need additional or more detailed information, Senator, please let us know. Also, we would be glad to have you, or any members of your committee, make an on-the-site investigation of our area.

I appreciate very much your asking for suggestions as to our needs in this part of New Mexico and the opportunity to converse with you on this important legislation.

With best wishes, I am,

Sincerely yours,

ROY W. PERKINS.

CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE,

PARKS AND RECREATION,

Albuquerque, N. Mex., June 30, 1964,

GAYLORD NELSON,

U.S. Senator, State of Wisconsin,

Washington, D.C.

DEAR SENATOR NELSON: I was most interested in your letter of June 15 last, regarding the proposed legislation of providing Federal funds to utilize unemployed workers on conservation projects.

The phenomenal growth of Albuquerque over the past decade, and the anticipation that this city will reach a population of approximately 400,000 by 1970, prompted the parks and recreation department to acquire blocks of federally owned land for future park and recreation development.

Over the past several years, the city has purchased and now owns 567 acres of this land and has leased another 1,000 acres. Needless to say, many improvements will be needed in order to develop these areas for recreation use by the public.

In reply to your specific questions, most certainly we could use substantial numbers of workers to help in clearing trails, building shelters, fences, parking areas, picnic sites, and park roads. A rough estimate of the number of workers and man-years might be approximately 50 men for perhaps 5 years.

I will be most anxious to hear from you again as to the progress of your proposed legislation and if I can be of further help to you, please do not hesitate to write me again.

DEAR SENATOR NELSON: This is in response to your letter of May 29 requesting information in connection with your interest in drafting Federal legislation to provide funds for the utilization of unemployed workers on conservation projects. You sent identical letters to several members of my staff and to the several New York State regional park commissions. Therefore, please consider this letter as a coordinated reply from these persons or agencies.

The nature of the conservation projects and activities undertaken by our department is varied. Such projects and activities include:

Establishment of new State parks with a wide variety of recreational facilities and expansion of existing ones;

Development of public campsites and day-use areas;

Development of boat-launching sites;

Wildlife habitat improvement;

In forests, stand improvement, tree planting, and insect, disease, and fire control;

Establishment of administrative facilities, including offices, dwellings, storehouses, and water systems;

Stream improvement;

Dam construction;

Trail construction.

All of these projects and activities are part of New York's comprehensive and continuing conservation and recreation program, a program which has been substantially accelerated during the administration of Gov. Nelson A. Rockefeller, and which is developed and implemented on the basis of priorities.

The amount and type of manpower required in these projects and activities depend upon a number of factors which are subject to continuing change. In turn, the amount and type of manpower available would significantly determine the nature of the projects and activities undertaken. In addition, such pending Federal legislation as the land and water conservation bill and the poverty program would have an impact.

In view of these factors, an estimate of man-years of work which might be usefully undertaken in the immediate future such as you request, cannot be made with any degree of realism unless many of the details of your proposed program were known, including such factors as program duration, personnel selection, expenditure levels, fund allocations and matching requirements, etc.

Naturally, great numbers of people could be used if unlimited funds were available and if considerations of economy and efficiency were not involved.

Sincerely,

H. G. WILM, Commissioner.

Hon. GAYLORD NELSON,

STATE OF NEW YORK,
ALLEGANY STATE PARK COMMISSION,
Red House, N.Y., June 2, 1964.

U.S. Senate,

Washington, D.C.

MY DEAR SENATOR NELSON: I have received your letter of May 29, 1964, in which you request information as to conservation projects to utilize unemployed workers.

The Allegany State Park Commission is a commission operating under the Division of Parks of New York State. As policy must be considered on a statewide basis and in cooperation with other agencies of the State conservation department, I regret that I canot supply you with specific data as to such a program for this particular area. I can say that we can utilize many workers for an unlimited time on such projects as park development, roadside improvement, timber stand improvement, et cetera, without very extensive preparation provided funds, supervision and transportation for the workers are made available.

Very truly yours,

LEIGH J. BATTERSON,
Regional Park Manager.

STATE OF NEW YORK,

DIVISION OF FISH AND GAME,

WILDLIFE RESEARCH LABORATORY,
Delmar, N.Y., June 10, 1964.

Hon. GAYLORD NELSON,
U.S. Senate,

Washington, D.C.

DEAR SENATOR NELSON: My work with the New York Conservation Department is in research and hence I would not have any direct supervision over accelerated public works conservation projects. For this reason I would be most reluctant to make any estimates on the amount of man-hour work that could be provided. In my estimation the figure should be quite large.

I am sure you have contacted others in our department who are more directly concerned with carrying out conservation work on the land. In my job we are often recommending to management personnel practices that would be effective in the production of more game.

The State holds many thousands of acres of public hunting lands-some for upland game birds, others for waterfowl. Due to the natural forces of nature, changes that are adverse to some game species are taking place faster than they can be modified by the limited funds available from our hunting license income. Therefore, I assume you will be hearing from others in our department of highly justified conservation projects directed toward enhancing our hunting resource, a significant recreational outlet to more than a million New Yorkers.

Sincerely yours,

DIRCK BENSON, Senior Wildlife Biologist.

THE UNIVERSITY OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK,
THE STATE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT,
NEW YORK STATE MUSEUM AND SCIENCE SERVICE,
Albany, June 18, 1964.

Hon. GAYLORD NELSON,
U.S. Senate,

Washington, D.C.

MY DEAR SENATOR NELSON: In response to your letter of June 3, I am glad to provide the following comments concerning workers which could be effectively used in our program provided funds were available.

1. Exhibition:

(a) Planning and design: two aids with ability in drafting, lettering, and layout could be used in drawing plans for exhibits and preparing labels, posters, bulletin boards, and illustrations for publications.

(b) At least two aids with some experience or demonstrated aptitude could be put to work preparing models and replicas for exhibition, repairing

and maintaining existing exhibits, preparing mounts, study skins, and skeletal material, and replenishing such stock supplies as molded plaster letters.

(c) Construction: two carpenters or two handymen with some ability at carpentry and electrical wiring and installation could be utilized in moderniz. ing exhibit halls. In addition, a small maintenance crew of laborers (three) for the moving and placement of exhibit cases, handling of heavy supplies (lumber, plate glass, etc.) would relieve the skilled workers from these onerous duties.

2. Education:

(a) Clerical: a clerk to handle the mailing of information leaflets and loan kits, to run errands, and to cover the office when the part-time clerk is off duty and the instructors are busy, would be helpful.

(b) Loans to schools: With two or three assistants to work under the direction of an instructor, the loan kit program could be expanded to include a wider range of subjects as well as an increased number of kits.

3. Curatorial: Each of the six curators of collections could make use of one or two full-time assistants to aid with problems of storage, maintenance, preservation, cataloging, accession, receiving, sorting, and a hundred and one other duties, which leave very little time for the scholarship and research for which a curator's training and education has prepared him, and which, with the title he bears, is expected of him.

In terms of added staff, the above plans would call for 18 to possibly 30 persons for 1 year and the continuation of an equal number indefinitely into the future. It should be pointed out, however, that while most of the work could be performed by untrained help, an aptitude for the particular kind of work and a capacity for learning special skills would be essential.

Thank you for thinking of us in connection with your proposed legislation which would permit public agencies to utilize unemployed workers.

Sincerely yours,

VICTOR H. CAHALANE,

Assistant Director.

COUNTY OF MONROE,

DEPARTMENT OF PARKS,

Rochester, N.Y., June 30, 1964.

Hon. GAYLORD NELSON,
U.S. Senator,

Washington, D.C.

DEAR SENATOR NELSON: I am pleased to have the opportunity to express myself regarding your proposed legislation for the provision of funds for conservation projects. I very definitely feel that a park system such as ours could use a substantial number of unemployed workers. The following is a listing of some of the projects which we feel could be accomplished without any extensive changes being made in our present programs:

Forestry projects:

1. Cleaning of underbrush.

2. Thinning existing tree plantations.

3. Removal of deadwood and diseased trees.

4. Removal of mature trees.

By the above program we would open up new and more areas for public use. Tree diseases such as Dutch elm disease would be under better control and thereby reduce spreading of the disease.

Nursery work-Tree and shrub planting:

1. Production of plant materials for planting in permanent locations. 2. Effective planting program.

Many trees and shrubs well adapted for use in a particular section of the country are best grown under local conditions where proper care can be given as to cultivation, fertilization, and root pruning. We have experienced much success by purchasing young plants for growing in our nurseries where they can become acclimated to our conditions before planting out in permanent park An increased nursery program would allow us a good replacement and new planting program which would result in the greater enhancement of our park areas while at the same time plants for food and shelter for wildlife would be provided.

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