The experience of this Bureau confirms the twofold basis you offer in support of the project, viz, (1) that there is urgent Federal and public need for surveys and maps far in excess of those now available or which can be supplied in a reasonable time under existing Federal programs, and (2) that because of the developmental character of engineering, engineers have been particularly hard hit by the depression. Thousands of them are out of work and face destitution unless some relief is provided, as they cannot hope that the normal recovery processes will reabsorb them in the near future. I join with you in hoping that the proper authorities will give careful and sympathetic consideration to these two fundamental needs.

As a bureau chief, however, I must leave decision on the fundamentals to such higher authority and concern myself chiefly with the workability of the project. The Coast and Geodetic Survey deservedly has a high reputation which I am zealous to protect, and I would not want to become a party to any project which could not be efficiently and economically executed, giving the public excellent value for the money spent.

The work proposed is of a kind normally under the jurisdiction of two Federal agencies, the Coast and Geodetic Survey and the Geological Survey. However, the Coast and Geodetic Survey has large programs of its own work identical in kind with that you propose. Under existing Public Works allotments, we are using unemployed engineers extensively on such work and know from actual experience that after a brief period of training they function efficiently under supervision. I have no fears on that score.

We come, then, to the question of supervision and administration. You propose a temporary emergency authority to administer the project by utilizing the pooled surplus capacities of the two Bureaus to provide the administrative and supervisory personnel and some equipment. Our own Bureau already is largely expanded, but that fact is favorable rather than the reverse, because that expansion has enlarged the reservoir from which may be drawn the trained personnel for supervision. I believe this Bureau could readily furnish at least half, and if necessary more than half, of the supervisory personnel required. An efficient and economical project cannot be of too brief duration. Instruments and equipment must be purchased, and it should be possible to use them long enough to make them pay for themselves. The rank and file of employees should work long enough to minimize the cost of their only partly effective training period. A duration of 2 years is the minimum which I would E advocate.

All the foregoing is on the assumption that the Geological Survey approves the project and is willing to cooperate along the lines you propose. I hope you will regard this letter as a definite commitment only if and when you are assured of the concurrence of that Bureau.

Subject to that qualification, I can summarize my own attitude toward the project as follows:

If the Federal Government must continue to spend millions as an aid to economic recovery, I know of no project on which an expenditure of the sum you propose would result in as great and as widely diffused relief of unemployment and in equal permanent benefit to the public, which must pay the bill. Very truly yours, R. S. PATTON, Director.

EXHIBIT G

UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,

GEOLOGICAL SURVEY, Washington, June 6, 1934.

Mr. FREDERICK M. FEIKER,
Executive Secretary, American Engineering Council,

Washington, D.C.

MY DEAR MR. FEIKER: In response to your inquiry as to whether, in my opinion, the plan for the making of planometric maps, that is, maps without Coutours, is a practical relief plan likely to yield a useful product and at the same time supply employment to a substantial number of engineers now unemployed.

Planometric maps undoubtedly serve many important purposes, especially in relatively smooth country. Thus they are extremely useful pending the time when standard topographic maps can be made for the same areas. The

eeting can at kaa time te completed at a minimum cost to the

Hies of this survey is entirely made up of engineers and wee gay mo at a time of stress for many of this profession

deared for: Be it therefore

Headbod: 1. Txas the New Ay Association of Professional Engineers and Land Super goes, deems it to her its professional duty to urge that steps be taken to can the uricy to contine to its final completion and that the United Shutes and the State of New Jersey shall be permitted to reap the benefis of the completion of this work; and

2. That the trustees of this organization are hereby authorized and instructed to place before the proper persons in this State and elsewhere the contents of this resolution and to notify them of the action of this association.

PRIPIOS CONNECTICUT SOCIETY OF CIVIL ENGINEERS, INC.

Recretary and Treasurer, New Haven. For continuance of second order Geodetic Control Survey of the State of the technical organization now set up under C.W.A. auspices

Commotion throu

allotment of Federal funds for the purpose.

Whereas the extension of the second order Coast and Geodetic Control Surrey of the State of Connecticut is well under way and assures results of high ermanent value to the State; and

Whereas an efficient engineering organization has been perfected and has Deen in operation since December 1, 1933; and

Whereas such desirable technical work is at the same time providing much needed relief from unemployment to many professional engineers and their Assistants; and

Whereas such valuable work is being carried out at very reasonable cost by men well qualified to handle it in the most efficient manner possible: Therefore, we, the undersigned members of the United States Coast and Geodetic Survey, Connecticut project, believing it to be in the interest of the general welfare, respectfully petition your honorable body, the Congress of these United States, to allot and render available to the State of Connecticut such Federal funds in such manner and through such channels as will continue the present organization in complete and effective operation until the extension of the second order Geodetic Control Survey of the State of Connecticut be completed, or at least for the period of 1 year from date of May 1, 1934. (Signed) Employees' petition to Senator Frederick C. Walcott, 215

signatures.

PETITION

For continuance of second order Geodetic Control Survey of the State of Connecticut by the technical organization now in operation through the further allotment of Federal funds for the purpose.

Whereas the present geological maps of the State of Connecticut are about 45 years old and fail to show the many physical changes that have occurred;

and

Whereas efforts to bring these maps up to date have been made without success for the past 10 years; and

Whereas the extension of the second order Geodetic Control Survey of the State of Connecticut is now under way by an efficient engineering organization perfected for the purpose; and

Whereas funds already allotted are insufficient to continue the work; and Whereas the completion of this work would be of great permanent value to the various communities and to the general welfare of the State; and

Whereas the discontinuance of the work at this time would involve a material and economic loss to the State; and

Whereas the work is being carried out at very reasonable cost; and Whereas it is estimated that a sum of $300,000 would complete this survey; Therefore we, the undersigned citizens of Connecticut, believing the continuance of this survey to be in the general welfare, respectfully petition your excellency, the Governor of the State of Connecticut, to obtain the necessary funds to render possible the continuance of the present organization in complete and effective operation, until the extension of the second order Geodetic Control Survey of the State of Connecticut shall have been completed. (Citizens' petition to Gov. Wilbur L. Cross, 25 letters and 4,000 signatures.)

THE CLEVELAND ENGINEERING SOCIETY.
Cleveland, Ohio, February 14, 1934.

THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL ENGINEERS AND SURVEYORS DIVISION OF THE
CLEVELAND ENGINEERING SOCIETY, REVISED COMMITTEE REPORT ON CADASTRAL
SURVEY OF CUYAHOGA COUNTY

Believing that the county planning commission in its work of planning future projects and improvements will of necessity require accurate information in the form of topographical maps upon which to base its reports, the professional municipal engineers and surveyors division of the Cleveland Engineer ing Society is presenting the following report on a project for the consideration of the Commission.

From previous correspondence of the society with offices of the Public Works Administration it has been ascertained that such a project would be acceptable if requested through the agency of such a body as yours.

This report is divided into four main parts as follows:

I. Statement of recommended project.

AND ORGANIZATION RECOMMENDED FOR GREATEST EFFICIENCY AND ACCURACY
OF DATA

the work to be executed under this project is to be used for all ing and municipal planning in Cuyahoga County, and ultimately as ́s of all land titles and surveys of properties, it is most essential that ject be carefully correlated and administered; that all work be perunder most rigid specifications and supervision by fully competent and 1 persons trained by education and experience to perform such tasks. therefore, recommended:

at the project be under the direct control of the county planning ssion.

at the project be allied as closely as possible with the Ohio division United States Geodetic Survey Department, now under the supervision E. Sherman, C.E., of Columbus, who is represented locally by Professor of Case School of Applied Science, Cleveland, for purposes of conof policy, the establishing of standards of precision, and, if possible, inancial support after the funds hereby requested are exhausted. hat the project should be in charge of a chief engineer selected for his cal and administrative ability, his knowledge of local and engineering tle conditions, his familiarity with the practicing engineering offices of ounty, and who should be appointed for a relatively long period of time. 'hat sufficient funds be provided for the printing and publication of the and records so obtained, and a series of charges be determined for the al support of the project through the sale of maps and records as iled. That, except for routine matters and isolated data, all field data should tained through the employment of private practicing municipal engineers surveyors of good professional reputation with at least 5 years' experience ork of this type under rigid specifications set up by the chief engineer in ration with the American Society of Civil Engineers, the United States etic Survey, and the Cleveland Engineering Society.

That such work be distributed as uniformly as possible among such neers as are qualified, and that the chief engineer determine a fair system emuneration based on a study of prevailing rates of pay. That no essional services be solicited or obtained through competitive bidding. That all work so contracted for and performed under this project be in rdance with the code of fair competition for professional municipal engi's and surveyors of Cuyahoga County agreed to and accepted by the ve-named division January 16, 1934, or such national code for the profession is adopted and applied to the profession in this county at that time. 'espectfully submitted.

MYRON T. JONES, Chairman.
W. P. LANDER.

L. C. QUAYLE.

SOLUTION-ADOPTED AT A CONFERENCE OF MARYLAND ENGINEERS HELD AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND AT COLLEGE PARK, MD.

MARCH 22, 1934.

Whereas there is now in progress in the State of Maryland, in cooperation ith the United States Coast and Geodetic Survey, and under the auspices of e Civil Works Administration, a geodetic control survey which is establishing onuments the horizontal plane coordinates and elevations of which are being termined with great precision and accuracy in reference to the data estabshed by the said Coast and Geodetic Survey; and

Whereas the economic importance of such a program to the citizens of Maryand for controlling, simplifying, and coordinating surveys of property and lans for all projects of an engineering nature, as well as the imperative necesity of this survey for the control of maps for public improvements, and to the Jnited States as a whole for the control of topographic and military maps in 1 seaboard State, are, in the opinion, of this conference, of great and vital significance and must eventually be carried to completion; and

Whereas this survey does not compete with private business of any kind, nor with industry or agriculture, nor are the men engaged in this survey ever employed as farm laborers, or as industrial laborers; and

Whereas this survey can at this time be completed at a minimum cost to the State and the Nation; and