COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY PAT MCCARRAN, Nevada, Chairman HARLEY M. KILGORE, West Virginia ALEXANDER WILEY, Wisconsin SUBCOMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE INTERNAL SECURITY ACT AND OTHER INTERNAL SECURITY LAWS PAT MCCARRAN, Nevada, Chairman JAMES O. EASTLAND, Mississippi WILLIS SMITH, North Carolina HOMER FERGUSON, Michigan SUBCOMMITTEE INVESTIGATING THE INSTITUTE OF PACIFIC RELATIONS PAT MCCARRAN, Nevada HOMER FERGUSON, Michigan ROBERT MORRIS, Special Counsel II INSTITUTE OF PACIFIC RELATIONS FRIDAY, OCTOBER 12, 1951 UNITED STATES SENATE, SUBCOMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE THE ADMINISTRATION SECURITY LAWS, OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY, Washington, D. C. The subcommittee met at 10:30 a. m., pursuant to call, in room 424, Senate Office Building, Hon. Pat McCarran (chairman) presiding. Present: Senators McCarran, Smith, and Ferguson. Also present: Senator Millikin; J. G. Sourwine, committee counsel; Robert Morris, subcommittee counsel; Benjamin Mandel, director of research; and Prof. Kenneth Colegrove, Northwestern University. The CHAIRMAN. The committee will come to order. Mr. Morris, you may proceed. Mr. MORRIS. Mr. Chairman, I believe Governor Stassen has been sworn. The CHAIRMAN. Governor Stassen has been sworn, not once, but twice to my certain knowledge. Mr. MORRIS. And pursuant to direction we had Governor Stassen recalled in order that he might make an analysis of the transcript which was released yesterday by the State Department and make comparisons between the transcript and his testimony, and for that reason he has been called here this morning, to show whether or not the transcript justifies his testimony. The CHAIRMAN. Governor, you may proceed. Mr. MORRIS. Mr. Chairman, this letter that you prepared is now ready, and it bears on this matter, so I think it would be just as well to read it at the outset. [Reading:] Hon. DEAN ACHESON, Secretary of State, Washington, D. C. OCTOBER 12, 1951. MY DEAR MR. SECRETARY: Thank you for making available to the Internal Security Subcommittee a transcript of the October 6, 7, and 8, 1949, round-table conference. I notice that the list of questions submitted to the conferees does not appear in the transcript. Inasmuch as this is an integral part of the record, will you make this available? The Internal Security Subcommittee would also like to have a copy of the memoranda submitted by individuals, together with a list of those submitting memoranda, and a list of those invited to the conference. Your kind cooperation will be appreciated. Sincerely, The CHAIRMAN. Very well. PAT MCCARRAN, Chairman. Mr. MORRIS. Governor Stassen, have you had an opportunity to study the transcript made available to you? TESTIMONY OF HAROLD E. STASSEN, PRESIDENT, UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA Mr. STASSEN. I had a limited opportunity to study it last night, Mr. Morris and Senator, and we have gone through it quite thoroughly within the limitations of time. Mr. MORRIS. Governor Stassen, will you point out to us that portion of the transcript which bears out the testimony that you have given before this subcommittee? Mr. STASSEN. Senator and gentlemen of the committee, I would like to state first that I appear in response to your request that I return for further examination by you upon the transcript which is now released of the October 6, 7, and 8, 1949, conference at the State Depart ment. I wish to commend you, if I may, sir, on your successful effort in getting this to be a public record, and I would respectfully suggest for your consideration that it ought at some time to become printed so that it would be available in the academic circles in the country as a mini mum. I say to you again that I will endeavor to answer your questions fairly and objectively from the facts as I know them. I will refer frequently to the transcript this morning, and as a witness I will not assess motives to anyone. I am not here as an associate of anyone else, nor for the purpose of attacking anyone else. I responded to your subpena, and I will answer fully and carefully because of the great importance of the subject under inquiry. You will recall that I testified on October 1, 1951, that the prevailing group in the conference was led in the discussions by Mr. Owen Lattimore and Mr. Lawrence Rosinger. You will also recall that the State Department on the next morning issued a press release which denied my testimony and that Mr. Lattimore and Mr. Rosinger also issued press releases which denied my testimony; and you will also be aware that this morning the papers carry a State Department press release which says that I am "factually incorrect." Therefore, I will proceed to carefully analyze the transcript in relation to my previous testimony, but more important than that, also in relation to the basic issues which were then and are now before the country, because I should like to state, sir, that my greatest interest in this matter is because of my extreme concern that I can see now in its early stages a similar world-wide pattern of action which would have as its consequence the undermining of the Congress Party of India and of Premier Nehru and the turning of India to the domination of the Communist Party of India, and all over the world men who participated in the pattern of action with relation to China are now shifting to India, so that is the background from which we now proceed, with your permission, Senator, in this very careful analysis of this paper on our China policy. The transcript, now at long last released, clearly proves the correctness of my memory of the conference and the truth of my description of it. I testified as this prevailing group, and I might just make this first comment, not that this in itself is important proof, but it is a detail. Through this transcript you will find, sir, that Mr. Owen Lattimore, exclusive of questions during the briefing by the military, spoke 19 |