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(The information requested follows:)

To furnish to the committee the information requested, as to the amount by which the President's original estimates for 1947 would have been exceeded had all supplemental estimates requested by him been enacted, will require a detailed analysis of each supplemental request for that year. This analysis has started, and the committee will be furnished with the information at the earliest possible date.

The analysis referred to is necessary because the budget for the fiscal year 1947, submitted in January 1946, contained (1) estimates of expenditure based on the specific recommendations for appropriations set forth in that budget and carryover balances; (2) a lump-sum estimate of expenditures from anticipated supplementals to be submitted at later dates; and (2) estimates of expenditure based on proposed legislation for which supplemental appropriation estimates would be submitted following enactment of the legislation.

The supplemental estimates actually submitted must be analyzed to determine those that fall into one of the foregoing three categories, those that involved restorations of cuts made by Congress in items included in the budget, and those that were for purposes not contemplated when the budget was originally submitted. This latter class will represent the President's proposals for additional expenditure above the amount originally contemplated.

The CHAIRMAN. What is the situation in that respect as to fiscal 1948?

Mr. WEBB. I supplied a table to the House Ways and Means Committee with respect to the 1948 budget.

The CHAIRMAN. May we back up so that I can ask you what was the expenditure estimate for fiscal 1948?

Mr. WEBB. Originally submitted, sir?

The CHAIRMAN. Originally submitted.
Mr. WEBB. $37,528,000,000.

The CHAIRMAN. Then how much would that have been exceeded had the President's supplementals presented during that fiscal year for expenditure in that fiscal year been granted?

Mr. WEBB. I will have to furnish that. I do not have a list of all of the supplementals that were submitted here.

Senator BARKLEY. You assume that none of the supplementals were carried in appropriation?

The CHAIRMAN. No; I am asking for the information as to the requests made and as to if the requests had been granted how much the expenditure budget of fiscal 1948 would have been exceeded. (The information requested is as follows:)

Estimated expenditures in 1948 budget_-

Estimated expenditures against supplementals (total).

Millions $37, 528

1. Amendments to the budget through December 1947 (net)- $1,044
2. Anticipated supplementals to be considered by 2d sess.,
80th Cong

1, 945

901

Deduct expenditures against supplementals submitted to restore cuts by
Congress in the estimate of $37,528,000,000 in line 1 above_.

Estimated additional expenditures (net).

Total expenditures if all estimates were enacted_

-857

1, 088

38, 616

Senator BARKLEY. I think you ought to include in that table the amount of supplementals that Congress approved and appropriated money for.

The CHAIRMAN. I have no objection to having that included.

Mr. WEBB. I can give you the total of the supplemental. This is 1948. I can give you the total of the supplementals submitted by the President, and the total is $3,116,120,000, rounded off.

The CHAIRMAN. During the fiscal year 1948?

Mr. WEBB. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. And those represent requests made after the original budget was submitted?

Mr. WEBB. Yes, sir. Some of those were included in the original request as anticipated supplementals.

The CHAIRMAN. Can we have a figure on that, as to those that came then and those that came after the original submission? Mr. WEBB. Yes, sir.

(The information referred to is as follows:)

TABLE VII.—Summary of supplemental appropriations for the fiscal year 1948, recommended to the first sesion of the Eightieth Congress and the amounts included as anticipated supplemental appropriations in the 1948 Budget, submitted in January 1947

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1 This minus figure is due to a requested reduction of $20,750,000 for War Assets Administration and $33,000 for the Council of Economic Advisers in the estimates recommended in the 1948 budget.

The CHAIRMAN. What Presidential requests have there been since the budget for fiscal 1949 was submitted that are not included in the original budget for fiscal 1949?

Mr. WEBB. Would you like Mr. Martin, the head of our Estimates Division, to answer that, Senator?

The CHAIRMAN. Yes.

Mr. WEBB. I would like to give you the best information we have. Mr. MARTIN. Senator, in the preparation of the 1949 budget there were some items which came in too late for inclusion in the detail of

the budget. We included, however, a contingency item in the budget of some $125,000,000. The largest amounts involved concerned the Post Office Department, where information as to the increase in mail transportation rates did not become available until December 24. There was a considerable proportion of the contingency item chargeable to the Post Office budget.

The CHAIRMAN. Does the original budget for fiscal 1949 reflect the additional requests that are coming in for Greece and Turkey?

Mr. MARTIN. The budget had $440,000,000 of estimated expenditures, I believe, for other foreign aid.

The CHAIRMAN. That would be Korea, China, Greece, Japan, and Turkey?

Mr. MARTIN. Yes, sir. And the present estimate I think is $600,000,000, in view of the current developments.

The CHAIRMAN. Are there any commitments, so far as you know, for assistance to South American countries, or to any countries to the south us, that have not come in yet?

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Mr. LAWTON. Yes, sir. There is an item covering a bill now pending before the Congress for military aid to South America, which has not been submitted.

The CHAIRMAN. Is that an administration measure?

Mr. LAWTON. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. It was not in the expenditure budget for fiscal 1949? Mr. LAWTON. It was in. The appropriations estimate has not come up yet.

The CHAIRMAN. I am driving at the amounts that were not in which are now covered by supplemental requests.

Mr. MARTIN. There are very few, Mr. Chairman. The increase in other foreign aid is an example of an understatement in the budget. Most of the supplementals that were sent up in House Document 504, which is about $3,000,000,000, represented items which were either specifically set forth as supplementals to going programs or as anticipated supplementals by one-line items in the budget.

The CHAIRMAN. You will give us for the record the exact overage so far developed by the request for supplements for foreign aid or for foreign military expenditures in connection with the budget for fiscal 1949.

Mr. MARTIN. Yes, sir; that is over and above the amount directly set forth in the budget or included in our contingency item.

(The information requested is as follows:)

Estimated expenditures for international aid other than the European recovery program have increased $160,000,000 since the 1949 budget was submitted.

Senator LUCAS. Mr. Chairman, before you leave that inquiry-
The CHAIRMAN. Surely.

Senator LUCAS. May I inquire of Mr. Webb or someone of his staff as to how much Congress appropriated for items for fiscal 1948 that were not included in the President's budget?

Mr. WEBB. We could supply that to you, Senator.

The CHAIRMAN. I think that is a very relevant figure and might be

put in.

(See table IX, p. 82.)

Senator LUCAS. I would like to have that for 1948 and also for 1949.

NOTE. No figures for 1949 are available since Congress has not completed action on any 1949 Appropriation Act.

I would like to ask at this point whether or not you have compiled figures to show whether we saved any money in fiscal 1948 on the recommendation of expenditures made by the President of $37,528,000,000?

Mr. WEBB. Senator, we supplied to the House Ways and Means Committee a statement of all changes in the 1948 budget which took place between the original submission in January 1947 and the revised figures in January 1, 1948, and indicated by short notes what had brought about those changes. I would be glad to supply that same statement for your record if you wish.

Senator LUCAS. I wish you would. And if you can give me the answer at this time I would appreciate it.

(The information requested is as follows:)

TABLE VIII. The 1948 budget-Comparison of estimates of Federal budget expenditures for the fiscal year 1948, as shown in 1948 budget documents

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TABLE VIII.-The 1948 budget-Comparison of estimates of Federal budget expenditures for the fiscal year 1948, as shown in 1948 budget documents-Con.

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