1 said including but limited to, and upon reflection it would 2 seem to me any orders, we don't know what is in the file, 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 but if Judge Hastings entered orders in that connection we They, it seems to me, would fall within applications and orders, because I assume, for example, he would have entered an order extending the wiretap because The test for that is good cause, and we submit that The Chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary has unauthorized disclosure of Title III wiretap material and the letter lays out to some extent the nature of the We believe that that in itself constitutes just cause. The committee has an obligation to investigate Judge Hastings' conduct, these are serious allegations, indeed the 25 seriousness of the allegation is to some extent underscored 60 1 2 3 5 by reference to certain materials which Judge Hastings that is the fact that it is serious enough that the matter investigating committee which has been composed by Judge 6 7 9 Roney and two other judges to investigate these very same Now, we certainly take the position that these two 10 23 13 12 but certainly it underscores the seriousness of the 14 15 allegation. We also would point out in support of our position that we have shown good cause, is that the Department of 16 Justice which is thoroughly familiar with these materials, 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 probably more familiar than anyone else, has supported our So, we believe that we have shown good cause by any THE COURT: Well, now, before you proceed, you say you want something else. You've prepared an order stating specifically what you want. I haven't entered that order. Correct. Now, is it your position today you want to amend that draft in any way? MR. BARON; Well, the way we drafted the order again, if Your Honor will remember, we're doing this somewhat in the dark since we don't know what is there. We did it on the basis that the documents which relate to the possible improper disclosure by Judge Hastings One more specific I think that we would put in are any orders entered by Judge Hastings in connection with that We tried to make it sort of a catch-all as to the that we believed existed. THE COURT: Well, I suspect this is written -- when With regard to the transcripts, they raise a slightly different issue. Pirst and foremost, it seems to me the whole question of whether or not we're entitled to the transcripts 62 1 our right to the transcript. Judge Hastings clearly is not 2 an aggrieved party, and that is a term under the statute. 5 6 7 9 10 Under that section the statute requires that he has to be a party to the intercepted communication, and that is clearly not the case here, or he has to be a person against whom the interception was directed, and it is clear also that he was not a person against whom the interception was directed. So, we submit respectfully that Judge Hastings has no standing to come before this court to contest our right to obtain these documents -- these transcripts. He is simply not an aggrieved party. If we look at the statutory language, it is quite clear. There are two types of aggrieved parties. Judge 11 12 13 14 15 16 Hastings simply is neither one of them. In his opposition he also cites would give the citation to the court, United States versus Cruz, it is a case I came across after we had submitted our list, U.S. v. Cruz, that's C-r-u-z, 594 F.2d 268. THE COURT: Just a minute, please. MR. BARON: U.S. v. Cruz, C-r-u-z, 594 F.2d 268, First Circuit, 1979. In addition, we cited to a proposed amendment that was offered by Senator Phillip Hart back in 1968 to Title 1 2 III. It's Amendment Number 758. He would have added to the the communication or evidence derived therefrom is sought to be used, so that he would have expanded the concept of who could be an aggrieved party, it would be someone whose That amendment was rejected. That is specifically the category that Judge Hastings arguably might fall in and that was specifically rejected by the Congress. If I may, I don't know how readily accessible the court that amendment. THE COURT: Do you have a copy for Mr. Anderson? our materials. THE COURT: Well, I would like to have a copy of have to dig it out. The language would have expanded it to cover, as I have indicated, and that was rejected. If I may offer it to the court. THE COURT: Yes. 64 |