had been recorded and the promp-mittee was the hon. leader of the Opposititude with which they had been tion, who had plainly told the House the published and put in circulation other day that the cause of the delay in throughout the country. He hoped that publishing the debate on the Address the new committee, whatever course was his neglect to revise the report of his they might adopt with regard to the own speech, and his disinclination to publishing and printing, would, on no have it printed. The Government should ground, consent to the curtailment, choose such members as not only took a abbreviation or alteration of the speeches prominent part in the debates, but also made in this House, for if they did, he were interested in the publication of the for one, and he believed others would reports. No money expended by this also feel themselves irresponsible for branch of the Legislature was better emany reports of their speeches which ployed than the small amount voted might be published. every session for the reporting and publication of its debates, and it would not tend to elevate the character of the Senate if these reports were curtailed in any way. He hoped the hon. Postmaster-General would add Mr Haythorne, or some other member who was alive to the importance of having full reports of the debates of the Senate, to the committee. Hon. Mr. KAULBACH had no objection to have his name struck from the committee, but no reason had been given for taking this new departure. Instriking other committees the practice was that when any member did not wish to serve on it, he expressed his desire to be relieved of the duty, and some other member was named in his stead. It was stated that a new committee had been agreed upon, by whom he did not know. Of course it was the right of the Hon. Sir ALEX. CAMPBELL said that the name of the hon. Senator from De Salaberry had been proposed, and he would therefore move that the names of Hon. Messrs. Trudel and Hope be added to the committee. leader of the Government to name the committees, but if there was any one committee which should be directly within the control of the House Hon. Mr. POWER denied that the it was this. He did not know of any dis- House desired any change in the comcord in the old committee which would position of this committee, or that there justify this change. Their recommenda- was any dissatisfaction with the present tions had met with the approval of the system of reporting, or the manner in majority of the House. The reporting which the committee did its duty last of the debates of the Senate had been session. The recommendations of the satisfactorily performed. He believed it committee had been adopted without was essential that the reporting should division by the House, and no dissatisbe in extenso, and he concnrred in the faction had been expressed. He admitopinion of the hon. Senator op- ted that there had been some personal posite (Mr. Haythorne) that it feeling in the committee, but not so was important the reasons which much among its members as between influenced the Senate in amending one of its members and the reporters; or rejecting measures from the Lower and until about the close of the session House. No reporters should be given there had been no personal feeling amongst the liberty to furnish ideas for any mem- the members of the Committee at all. ber who addressed the House. Every He (Mr. Power) had no desire to serve Senator should be responsible for his on the committee this session, but he utterances, and it should not be in the thought it unwise to remove all the old power of any reporter to curtail or and experienced members. The subject modify them in giving them to the coun- of reporting the debates was a very imtry. The practice had been in appoint-portant one. It was a matter of some ing committees, to select members who delicacy and a little intricate, and there took an interest in and were specially should therefore be some experienced qualified to deal with the subjects which member on the committee. Those who were likely to come before them. Among had been involved in the difficulty last the members appointed to this new com- year, and whose tempers had got a little excited, should not be upon it, but there | February, and the time for presenting private bills to the 4th of February next. He asked the House to adopt the report without notice, as the time for presenting petitions expired to-day. The report was adopted. were others, such as the hon. Senator from DeLanaudiere, who had never lost his temper in the committee or in the House, the hon. Senator from Prince Edward Island (Mr. Haythorne), and the hon. Senator from British Columbia (Mr. Macdonald) who might very well have remained on the committee and given WRECK OF THE STEAMERS OTTAWA the House the benefit of their experience gained in former years. The motion was agreed to. THE ADDRESS. MESSAGE FROM HIS EXCELLENCY. Hon. Sir ALEX. CAMPBELL read a Message from His Excellency, thanking the House for their Address in reply to his Speech. The Senate adjourned at 4.30 p.m. THE SENATE, Friday, December 17th, 1880. The Speaker took the chair at 3.20 p.m. After prayers and routine proceedings, there being no business before the House, the Senate adjourned at 3.25 p.m. THE SENATE, Monday, December 20th, 1880. The Speaker took the chair at 3.25 p.m. Prayers and routine proceedings. TIME FOR RECEIVING PETITIONS EXTENDED. Hon. Mr. VIDAL presented the third report of the Committee on Standing Orders and Private Bills, recommending that the time for receiving petitions for private bills be extended to the 1st of AND BOYNE. INQUIRY. Hon. Mr. TRUDEL inquired :— Whether the Government has been informed of the shipwreck of the steamers Ottawa and Boyne, of the places where those steamers were wrecked respectively, of the causes to which their being wrecked is attributable, and of the amount of loss occasioned thereby? He said that he had called the attention of the Government last session to the character of the improvements on the Lower St. Lawrence, and especially those at Cap a la Roche where these wrecks had occurred. In addition to his own remarks he had submitted the opinions of men of great experience, one of whom had stated in a letter, from which he read to the House on that occasion, the following "This channel, where the works have been going on. for the last two years, is only 150 feet wide, and has, moreover, irregular currents, that render it dangerous. If, instead of the boulders from the natural one, according making this new channel, they had removed to the reports of Captain Armstrong, and of the Superintendent of the Pilot Office in 1879, The letter from which this quotation he had asked the question of the Minis- Hon. Sir ALEX. CAMPBELL said PRIZE FIGHTING BILL. learned from him that the Department proceedings, so I am afraid there are no had no official information on the sub-documents that I can bring down. ject of any kind; that the Government only knew the facts as they appeared in the newspapers, and, therefore, were anable to give any information beyond that which every hon. gentleman pos sessed. VISIT OF MINISTERS TO ENGLAND. MOTION. SECOND READING. Hon. Sir ALEX. CAMPBELL moved the second reading of Bill (A) “An Act respecting prize fighting." He explained that the attention of the Government had been called to the necessity of such a measure by two occurrences which had taken place last summer. On one occasion a prize fight which had been arranged in the State of New York took Hon. Mr. HAYTHORNE moved :"That an humble address be presented to His Excellency the Governor General, praying that His Excellency will cause to be laid be-place on Canadian soil. On the second fore this House:-1st. Copy of any Order in Council directing the Premier, the Minister of Railways and the Minister of Agriculture to proceed to England during the last summer. 2nd. Copy of any Order in Council or other document containing instructions to those Ministers before entering on, or while engaged in said mission. 3rd. Copy of any report of their proceedings made to His Excellency by those Ministers or any of them." He said? In rising to make the motion of which I have given notice, I desire to preface it with a very few remarks. It will be in the recollection of the House that at the close of last session a policy connected with the carrying on of the Pacific Railway was enunciated by the Government, and received the approval of Parliament, and that in the recess, it appears, from a paragraph in the Speech from the Throne, and from papers laid on the table of the House, that a change has taken place, and that the Government are now engaged in bringing before Parliament a system very different from that which was recommended last year. It is with a view to elucidate the circumstances which led to this change, and obtain all the information which can be had on this question that I make the notion of which I have given notice. presume there can be no objection to bringing down those papers, as they are very easily obtained, and not of very great length. I Hon Sir ALEX. CAMPBELL-There would have been no objection to bringing down those papers did they exist, but there is no Order in Council direct ing any of the Ministers named to proceed to England; there is no Order in Council giving instructions to those Ministers; there is no report of their occasion the party of roughs was pre- The Bill was read the second time. row, it stand adjourned until Wednesday, the 5th of January next. Hon. Mr. BOTSFORD suggested that it would be just as well to adjourn until Wednesday, the 12th of January. The suggestion was adopted, and the motion was amended accordingly and agreed to. LAVAL UNIVERSITY. MOTION. : Hon. Mr. PAQUET moved :"That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency the Governor General, praying that His Excellency will be pleased to cause to be laid before this House copies of all Correspondence, Petitions, and other Documents ad dressed to the Honorable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, in England, through the Honorable the Secretary of State for the Dominion of Canada; also, copy of a Memorandum from the Honorable the Minister of Justice to the said Honorable Secretary for the Colonies, the whole concerning the amendment to the Royal Charter granted to Laval University of Quebec, from January, 1879, up to this date." The motion was agreed to. PRIZE FIGHTING BILL. IN COMMITTEE. The House went into Committee on Bill (A), "An Act Respecting Prize Fighting." Hon. Sir ALEX. CAMPBELL said that the difficulty of adopting the amendment, or any words to that effect, was that these brutal encounters might take place on a bet, and not for a prize. It would enable prize fighters to evade the Act. Hon. Mr. DICKEY approved of the object of the Bill, but, as this clause stood, it applied to other contests which it was not contemplated to put down, and which, he thought, were a far more sensible way of adjusting disputes than the more modern one of knives and revolvers. Hon. Mr. MILLER concurred in the opinion of the hon. Senator from Amherst. The definition of "prize fight" was very imperfect. Hon. Sir ALEX. CAMPBELL thought that the clause might be amended to provide that a fight between parties over the age of twenty years, and on the termination of which fights money or bets depended, should be punishable. Hon. Mr. MILLER said it would not do to limit the age, because there might be very brutal fights between athletic young men of nineteen years of age. Hon. Mr. RYAN thought the Bl should provide also for the punishment On the first clause, defining the mean- of fights with cudgels. ing of the term "prize fight," Hon. Mr. CORNWALL said that the clause did not describe what prize fighting was, and if it passed without amendment, it would include all kinds of boxing, whether for a prize or not. Hon. Sir ALEX. CAMPBELL said that such fights did not take place in this country. The further consideration of the clause was postponed. On the second clause, Hon. Mr. ALMON was not in favor of prize fighting, but he thought the first clause of this Bill was too stringent, and would include fights between school boys. He disapproved of putting down that way of settling disputes among boys, and even among young men. It was bet-penalties were altogether too high. ter than to resort to the stiletto of the Spaniard and Italian, or the revolver. and bowie knife of our cousins across the border. He moved, in amendment, to add the following words to the clause Hon. Sir ALEX. CAMPBELL moved to fill up the first blank, with "one hundred," the second blank with 66 one thousand," and the third blank with "six." Hon. Mr. ALMON thought these "Upon the result of which encounter or fight any prize money or advantage of a pecuniary nature to whomsoever is made to depend." The clause was adopted, and the amendments were agreed to. On the third clause, Hon. Sir ALEX. CAMPBELL moved to fill the first blank with 66 three," and the second with "twelve." The clause was adopted and the amend ments were agreed to. On the fourth clause, Hon. Mr. ALMON suggested that a surgeon should not be punished for being present at a prize fight. He might be there to save life, or to put a stop to the fight. In the laws against duelling, so far as he knew, there was no punishment provided for the surgeon who might be present at the encounter. A surgeon was always present when a soldier was fogged, and, in the same way, his attendance might be necessary at a prize fight. ment by flogging was imposed, and his Hon. Mr. BROUSE said that a sur-exempt the surgeon would be to encourgeon who might not be aware that a age those encounters which the Bill was prize fight was going on might be sum- designed to prevent. moned to attend it professionally. He Hon. Mr. KAULBACH was in favor should be treated as an ordinary spec-of allowing the clause to stand as it was. tator. Hon. Mr. ALLAN said it was quite lear that to incur the penalty he must be present as one of the parties specially to attend the fight. Hon. Sir ALEX. CAMPBELL, said The very fact of permitting members of a highly respected profession to be present at those brutal exhibitions would be to encourage them, and almost render them respectable. The clause was adopted, and the blanks were filled up by inserting in the first fifty," in the second "five hundred,” in the third "twelve." that the presence of a surgeon at a prize The fifth clause was adopted: the blanks were filled up by inserting in the first "fifty," in the second "five hundred,” and in the third six." On the sixth clause, Hon. Sir ALEX. CAMPBELL said this was entirely new, it empowered any sheriff, chief of police, or any other police officer to arrest any one that he had reason to be Hon. Mr. POWER thought that the surgeon stood in an entirely different position from the other parties. The propriety of punishing a reporter would be doubtful only one of the objects of these prize fights was publicity in a certain way. And if a reporter was allowed to attend, his presence would encourage the fight, but he failed to see how the presence of the surgeon could lend any such encouragement. While prize fights were not so fatal as the old fashioned Eng-founded, lish and Irish duels, they were frequently attended by more serious consequences than duels on the continent. It was not uncommon for one of the parties to a prize fight to die from the effects of the punishment he received. A case of that kind had occurred recently in New Jersey. The presence of a surgeon would have a tendency to prevent the from going so far. fight Hon. Mr. MILLER did not think there was any analogy between the attendance of a surgeon where punish lieve was about to engage as principal any such was somewhat unusual, but he considered it necessary to prevent these fights taking place. The men who were likely to in such encounters were very engage few and were well known, and there could be no danger to Her Majesty's peaceable subjects in enacting this clause. He moved that the first blank be filled up |